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No hall of fame for any of them. If you ban them all they will be likely to complain about people who are in the hall of fame who did cheat too.

by acroso on 12/13/2007 06:08:08 PM EST

The problem is (none / 0)
all of the non-steroid based drugs any number of players are breathing a sigh of relief over getting away with (GH, insulin, IGF-1, Clenbuterol, etc.).

It's much more difficult to test for some of these substances, and I'm not even sure if they test for something like clenbuterol (they may or may not) which is rarely prescibed for asthmatics and very common for reducing bodyfat while maintaining muscle in animals raised for food.

Think about it, it's not JUST players looking to bulk up, there are also chubby guys (usually pitchers) looking to slim down without losing any muscle. 

And actually, steroids help with that as well, so the average joe formula (anyone who suddenly got buff must be using or have used steroids) needs to be thrown out, or at least taken with a grain of salt.

by ihavenobias on 12/13/2007 06:34:00 PM EST

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Well (none / 0)
Well if magor league baseball doesn't have a problem with those substances- then it's not cheating right?

by acroso on 12/13/2007 06:59:16 PM EST

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Actually (none / 0)
I'm sure ALL of those are banned, the issue is the ability to accurately test for them, especially with urine.

And yes, it's very much cheating.  But I'm not one of those "steroids ruined baseball" people (not that I have anything against them). After all, didn't pine tar, spitballs and amphetamine spiked coffee ruin it already?

But I should admit that football is BY FAR my favorite sport.  Maybe I'd feel differently if baseball was # 1. 

by ihavenobias on 12/13/2007 07:29:52 PM EST

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They're juicing in the NFL also, (none / 0)
and it is bad for the sport and bad for the players.

Routine, random screenings would easily solve the problem if the league really wants to solve the problem.

The way it is today, a player cannot compete without supplements.

by KenTX on 12/13/2007 08:10:46 PM EST

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They earn to much money to be cheating. We don't need these football players to be so large they are knocking the quarterback's head off anyway. 

 Now money is the bottom line and guys that are on the edge, I can see the motivation so they don't get cut, but we shouldn't be glorifying these people in the hall of fame.

 

by acroso on 12/13/2007 08:24:27 PM EST

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Hey, I've got an idea! (none / 0)
"We don't need these football players to be so large they are knocking the quarterback's head off anyway." 

What if we let quarterbacks juice all they want, while enforcing a strict steroid-free policy on everyone else?

That way, massive quarterbacks could kick the ass of skinny little blitzing linebackers.

I'm just trying to beat Jesse Jace OneHitKill to this inevitable conclusion.

by KenTX on 12/13/2007 11:05:50 PM EST

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Ideally (none / 0)
Ideally everyone WOULD be on a level playing field. I'm just not crazy about certain players being demonized while others are getting off scott free (because we don't/cast test for certain substances).

And again, it's not JUST the buff players like most people assume.  It could be the skinniest guy on the field.  For example, some steroids (in the right doses) actually *speed* recovery from injury (contrary to the popular notion that all steroids increase the risk of injury).

by ihavenobias on 12/13/2007 09:00:36 PM EST

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Mitchell Report on Steroids in Baseball is Out...Roger Clemens??? | 8 comments (8 topical, 0 hidden)