By your logic, Al Qaeda is in Iraq because we are there. Putting aside the inevitable silliness of "them following us back here" (what's stopping them from coming over now? Is there a force field around Iraq? One big cockroach hotel; once you go in, you never come out?) if we went to Afghanistan, wouldn't they go back there? To keep fighting us? All 2000 of them?

(I shit you not - one of the hearings, can't remember which, but I'm pretty sure Leahy said it - one of our senators, in the same pre-question speech quoted 1500, then 2000, then 3000 and finally 5000. It was the fastest growing fighting force known to man. Quadrupled in 10 minutes.)

So, don't think of it as "quitting Iraq," think of it as "luring those bastard Al Qaeda terrorist sumbitches back to Afghanistan where they belong!

America! Fuck YEAH!

by MedfordTim on 04/27/2007 01:11:16 AM EST

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to make me happy.

"By your logic, Al Qaeda is in Iraq because we are there."
Uh, let’s see now? Why do you think al Qaeda is in Iraq?

"Putting aside the inevitable silliness of "them following us back here" (what's stopping them from coming over now?"
They seem to have their hands full with Marines, Green Berets, and Navy Seals. These guys are slightly better than United 97 passengers, who were truly America’s finest, but they were unarmed and untrained.

"Is there a force field around Iraq? One big cockroach hotel; once you go in, you never come out?)"
That’s why Rumsfield called them “dead enders”. They enter Iraq to engage the Great Satan and die for Allah.

"If we went to Afghanistan, wouldn't they go back there? So, don't think of it as "quitting Iraq," think of it as "luring those bastard Al Qaeda terrorist sumbitches back to Afghanistan where they belong!"
That’s an interesting concept. However, I think al Qaeda might stay in Iraq, just to claim victory, help the Sunnis regain control, and show the world who won the war.

I like the idea of Iraqis killing al Qaeda. This is occurring more frequently, and now even the Sunni tribes are murdering al Qaeda.

Al Qaeda does not dare enter into Kurdistan today, because they are instantly recognized, and immediately killed. This is happening more and more in the southern provinces.

We need to remain in country, at least in a support role, and allow Iraqis to do the rat killing.

As for battling al Qaeda strictly in Afghanistan, I don’t like it as much. The terrain is much more favorable for insurgents, and I don’t trust the poppy growing Afghan tribal leaders.

by KenTX on 04/27/2007 01:35:05 AM EST

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...that you were playing some 'shots' game. I can't figure out any other way these three sentences came out the way you wanted:

"I think al Qaeda might stay in Iraq, just to claim victory, help the Sunnis regain control, and show the world who won the war."

I like the idea of Iraqis killing al Qaeda. This is occurring more frequently, and now even the Sunni tribes are murdering al Qaeda. (Actually, they have been for quite some time now - the local mullahs resent ferigners as much as Minutemen do.

Al Qaeda does not dare enter into Kurdistan today, because they are instantly recognized, and immediately killed. This is happening more and more in the southern provinces. (Actually, they never were a presence in the South - the Shia like them even less than the Kurds and Iraqi Sunnis.)

Forget Bill Kristol's wet dreams about Al Qaeda taking over Iraq - they don't have the manpower. Never did. They've been blowing smoke up your ass for five years.

HA! Gravel was great! Got my juices flowing! Tell them lyin' sons a bitches in Washington whut's whut!

We can handle the truth.

by MedfordTim on 04/27/2007 01:54:48 AM EST

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Ocasionally, a smart Democrat comes along to warn his Party how they are screwing up a perfect opportunity. I don't mind sharing this with you, because liberals are too stupid to understand a good idea when they see it.

If Democrats let Bush have his war, the GOP will pay for it in 2008.

If Democrats are successful at forcing withdrawal, they will pay for what happens in the aftermath.

I think the Democrat leadership might understand this. If so, they will make an effort to give the appearance they are trying to end the war, but they will pull back at the last minute and let Bush keep the troops in Iraq.

by KenTX on 04/27/2007 02:11:27 AM EST

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...the only time you think a Dem is smart is when they're spouting a Rightie talking point?

Us Independents against the war will back anyone who gets us dafuck out of Iraq.

Doug Schoen needs to get his priorities straight.

by MedfordTim on 04/27/2007 12:14:12 PM EST

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Since you use the word "defeat" I can only assume you are a comedian looking for a laugh.

Ha.

Ha.

What do you say to the 150 million people who understand that there is no freakin' military solution and want the troops home?

You go with the Rightie fantasy of utter collapse. I'll go with "the Iraqis who are angry that foreign occupiers are in their country won't be able to use the U.S. as a scapegoat for their actions. They can't accomplish ANYTHING as long as their country is under U.S. occupation - Iraqis have no faith that their "government" has their interests at heart - they are seen as America enablers. Our presence gives aid and comfort to the "enemy."

by MedfordTim on 04/27/2007 11:42:08 PM EST

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Sunni tribal leaders killed the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq.

Read what KenTX said just a couple of days ago:

"I like the idea of Iraqis killing al Qaeda. This is occurring more frequently, and now even the Sunni tribes are murdering al Qaeda. Al Qaeda does not dare enter into Kurdistan today, because they are instantly recognized, and immediately killed. This is happening more and more in the southern provinces. We need to remain in country, at least in a support role, and allow Iraqis to do the rat killing."

by KenTX on 05/01/2007 07:08:11 AM EST

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