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Just dont get it (none / 0)
That's funny, Bush NEVER mentions the fact that " we are fighting Al Qaeda for control of the region" . He says things pertaining to stabilizing a country that is in the midst of  a  civil war  so they can  stand on their own etc etc etc.

The problem of al qaeda and international terrorism in general is not being solved by Getting involved in a civil war in Iraq.  Its odd how that 32% just cant fucking understand that.

The difference between Afghanistan and Iraq is the fact that terrorist where there BEFORE we invaded the country.

by Left Is Right on 04/26/2007 03:26:21 PM EST

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Remedial help for the logic-impaired. (none / 0)
"The difference between Afghanistan and Iraq is the fact that terrorist were there BEFORE we invaded the country."

Try as hard as you can to follow the next sentence. Al Qaeda is currently operating in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Did you get that?

So why would we run from the fight in Iraq while continuing to wage war with al Qaeda in Afghanistan?


by KenTX on 04/26/2007 04:40:35 PM EST

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Black isnt white.. and American guys are dying (none / 0)
Trying to tie what is happening is Iraq to defeating global terrorism. Is a real stretch. Even for Cheney.


The 32% left are simple minded enough to think that there is going to be a big victory in Iraq  like WW2.. and Global terrorism is going to be defeated once and for all.  Or that a Civil war in Iraq somehow makes America safer. They will always think that. There is no reasoning with them.

Bush himself does not refer to defeating global terrorism. He is all about "stablizing the country" after the huge mess he made.   


by Left Is Right on 04/26/2007 05:56:54 PM EST

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Why Iraq and not Afghanistan? (none / 0)
From now on, whenever a liberal makes a comment about Iraq, I'm going to modify the statement with the word "Afghanistan". Then you can see hear stupid the argument sounds.  Here's an example.

"Trying to tie what is happening in Afghanistan to defeating global terrorism is a real stretch, even for Cheney. The 32% left are simple minded enough to think that there is going to be a big victory in Afghanistan, like WW2, and Global Terrorism is going to be defeated once and for all.  Or that a Civil war in Afghanistan somehow makes America safer. They will always think that. There is no reasoning with them."

by KenTX on 04/26/2007 07:40:24 PM EST

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Of courrrrrse they have to change it (none / 0)
 of courrrse the right wingers have to modify anything to do with Iraq. Because thats an argument that they cannot win with more of the same tired ass be scared be very scared rhetoric.  The American people just arent buying it..  like I said the 32% will NEVER get it.

Afghanistan ? Ohhhh btw  where is Osama? You know.. dead or alive?

by Left Is Right on 04/26/2007 10:20:06 PM EST

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What would it take? (none / 0)
"Ohhhh btw  where is Osama?"

He's in Iraq. Is it OK with you if we stay and get him?

by KenTX on 04/26/2007 10:21:57 PM EST

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I heard Condi got some new shoes. (none / 0)
"Ohhhh btw  where is Osama?"

He's in Iraq. Is it OK with you if we stay and get him?

What is he doing in Iraq, shopping at the market?

by jazzchic on 04/27/2007 04:18:00 AM EST

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Everything must go (none / 0)
If I were him, that's exactly where I'd go.  It's as safe there as at an outdoor market in Indiana, haven't you heard?

by OneHitKill on 04/27/2007 12:09:00 PM EST

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This is a quagmire now (none / 0)
Bin Laden is wanted alive.  It doesn't mean they want to catch him.  They just want him to be alive.

by OneHitKill on 04/26/2007 10:24:01 PM EST

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Right back atcha! (none / 0)
By your logic, Al Qaeda is in Iraq because we are there. Putting aside the inevitable silliness of "them following us back here" (what's stopping them from coming over now? Is there a force field around Iraq? One big cockroach hotel; once you go in, you never come out?) if we went to Afghanistan, wouldn't they go back there? To keep fighting us? All 2000 of them?

(I shit you not - one of the hearings, can't remember which, but I'm pretty sure Leahy said it - one of our senators, in the same pre-question speech quoted 1500, then 2000, then 3000 and finally 5000. It was the fastest growing fighting force known to man. Quadrupled in 10 minutes.)

So, don't think of it as "quitting Iraq," think of it as "luring those bastard Al Qaeda terrorist sumbitches back to Afghanistan where they belong!

America! Fuck YEAH!

by MedfordTim on 04/27/2007 01:11:16 AM EST

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You're just lobbing softballs (none / 0)
to make me happy.

"By your logic, Al Qaeda is in Iraq because we are there."
Uh, let’s see now? Why do you think al Qaeda is in Iraq?

"Putting aside the inevitable silliness of "them following us back here" (what's stopping them from coming over now?"
They seem to have their hands full with Marines, Green Berets, and Navy Seals. These guys are slightly better than United 97 passengers, who were truly America’s finest, but they were unarmed and untrained.

"Is there a force field around Iraq? One big cockroach hotel; once you go in, you never come out?)"
That’s why Rumsfield called them “dead enders”. They enter Iraq to engage the Great Satan and die for Allah.

"If we went to Afghanistan, wouldn't they go back there? So, don't think of it as "quitting Iraq," think of it as "luring those bastard Al Qaeda terrorist sumbitches back to Afghanistan where they belong!"
That’s an interesting concept. However, I think al Qaeda might stay in Iraq, just to claim victory, help the Sunnis regain control, and show the world who won the war.

I like the idea of Iraqis killing al Qaeda. This is occurring more frequently, and now even the Sunni tribes are murdering al Qaeda.

Al Qaeda does not dare enter into Kurdistan today, because they are instantly recognized, and immediately killed. This is happening more and more in the southern provinces.

We need to remain in country, at least in a support role, and allow Iraqis to do the rat killing.

As for battling al Qaeda strictly in Afghanistan, I don’t like it as much. The terrain is much more favorable for insurgents, and I don’t trust the poppy growing Afghan tribal leaders.

by KenTX on 04/27/2007 01:35:05 AM EST

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I will assume... (none / 0)
...that you were playing some 'shots' game. I can't figure out any other way these three sentences came out the way you wanted:

"I think al Qaeda might stay in Iraq, just to claim victory, help the Sunnis regain control, and show the world who won the war."

I like the idea of Iraqis killing al Qaeda. This is occurring more frequently, and now even the Sunni tribes are murdering al Qaeda. (Actually, they have been for quite some time now - the local mullahs resent ferigners as much as Minutemen do.

Al Qaeda does not dare enter into Kurdistan today, because they are instantly recognized, and immediately killed. This is happening more and more in the southern provinces. (Actually, they never were a presence in the South - the Shia like them even less than the Kurds and Iraqi Sunnis.)

Forget Bill Kristol's wet dreams about Al Qaeda taking over Iraq - they don't have the manpower. Never did. They've been blowing smoke up your ass for five years.

HA! Gravel was great! Got my juices flowing! Tell them lyin' sons a bitches in Washington whut's whut!

We can handle the truth.

by MedfordTim on 04/27/2007 01:54:48 AM EST

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Smart Democrat (none / 0)
Ocasionally, a smart Democrat comes along to warn his Party how they are screwing up a perfect opportunity. I don't mind sharing this with you, because liberals are too stupid to understand a good idea when they see it.

If Democrats let Bush have his war, the GOP will pay for it in 2008.

If Democrats are successful at forcing withdrawal, they will pay for what happens in the aftermath.

I think the Democrat leadership might understand this. If so, they will make an effort to give the appearance they are trying to end the war, but they will pull back at the last minute and let Bush keep the troops in Iraq.

by KenTX on 04/27/2007 02:11:27 AM EST

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I wonder why... (none / 0)
...the only time you think a Dem is smart is when they're spouting a Rightie talking point?

Us Independents against the war will back anyone who gets us dafuck out of Iraq.

Doug Schoen needs to get his priorities straight.

by MedfordTim on 04/27/2007 12:14:12 PM EST

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Watch the straw burn........ (none / 0)
Since you use the word "defeat" I can only assume you are a comedian looking for a laugh.

Ha.

Ha.

What do you say to the 150 million people who understand that there is no freakin' military solution and want the troops home?

You go with the Rightie fantasy of utter collapse. I'll go with "the Iraqis who are angry that foreign occupiers are in their country won't be able to use the U.S. as a scapegoat for their actions. They can't accomplish ANYTHING as long as their country is under U.S. occupation - Iraqis have no faith that their "government" has their interests at heart - they are seen as America enablers. Our presence gives aid and comfort to the "enemy."

by MedfordTim on 04/27/2007 11:42:08 PM EST

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THIS JUST IN! (none / 0)
Sunni tribal leaders killed the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq.

Read what KenTX said just a couple of days ago:

"I like the idea of Iraqis killing al Qaeda. This is occurring more frequently, and now even the Sunni tribes are murdering al Qaeda. Al Qaeda does not dare enter into Kurdistan today, because they are instantly recognized, and immediately killed. This is happening more and more in the southern provinces. We need to remain in country, at least in a support role, and allow Iraqis to do the rat killing."

by KenTX on 05/01/2007 07:08:11 AM EST

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Nickname impaired (none / 0)
For the record, I get tired of Left Is Right, too.  But BB, what does "Left Is Reicht" mean??  Is that supposed to be some kind of German joke?  If so, did you perhaps mean "Reich?"  Or "Recht?"

by OneHitKill on 04/26/2007 10:21:40 PM EST

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It is now unanimous! (none / 0)
"For the record, I get tired of Left Is Right, too."

-Jesse "One Hit Kill" Jace

by KenTX on 04/26/2007 10:23:31 PM EST

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Duh, dude (none / 0)
It's been unanimous for weeks, man.  My posts are a veritable font of information if you read them right.

by OneHitKill on 04/26/2007 10:25:25 PM EST

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Verbatim Quotes from Republicans when Clinton was Prez. | 38 comments (38 topical, 0 hidden)