A cell is not "infinitely complex."  What the hell does that even mean?  That's one of the dumbest things. What the hell is "infinitely complex?"  That is just an expression.

I must admit that I thought before that I knew the difference between atheist and agnostic, but I now think I don't know. I didn't understand the original post in this thread.  Please re-write.

I don't believe that anything like God exists, except in peoples' minds. Do I claim to know anything with 100% certainty? No, of course not, that is theoretically impossible.  What am I?  Whatever I am, not try to tell me that I think maybe God exists. It doesn't.

David

by yturks on 12/22/2008 09:59:23 PM EST

If you don't believe it's possible to know anything with 100% certainty (agnostic viewpoint), how can you say with such force, "It doesn't," (gnostic viewpoint) in regard to whether or not anything like God exists?

Maybe it's important to keep on expressing highly probable beliefs with the force of fact, but I think that undercuts any sort of agnostic viewpoint.

The most important question for me isn't the search for the truth - it's what certain assumptions about the truth mean for a person.  What does a person without 100% certainty in anything look like?  What does a person with a strong belief that nothing like God exists look like?  And what kind of person do you want to be?  And (most interesting), what does the internal conflict between these two types of beliefs look like in a person?  These questions seem far more relevant and interesting to me...but that's just me.

by marlonm on 12/22/2008 11:09:04 PM EST

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KenTX, you crack me up. OK, I watched the YouTube clip about the cell. Yes, a cell is extremely complex. This video does nothing to explain what "infinitely complex" means, because it means nothing.

David

by yturks on 12/23/2008 06:39:48 PM EST

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a Cell is finitely complex...

by Tin Hat Mafia on 12/23/2008 08:02:59 PM EST

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