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"so you know the Universe had a beginning"

If you define the universe as existing since the big bang, then yes. Maybe there was something before the big bang. Who knows? Maybe the universe had a beginning and maybe not.

"It does not neccesarily hold that the Cause had it's own beginning and cause."

Very convenient. If the "cause" doesn't have to have a cause, then neither does the universe (in which case there is no cause).

 

by jutewe on 12/24/2008 07:00:12 PM EST

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I don't think you're a dumb guy (none / 0)
nor do I know everything, but how do you know there was nothing before the big bang? I don't think anyone really knows this. And when we are talking about causes, maybe the beginning of the entire universe is a special case - after all, you are referring to things occurring within the already-existing universe. And maybe there is a good reason for the universe spontaneously appearing, I just don't know what it is. As I have already said, God doesn't solve this conundrum, all it does is create a new mystery when "solving" the old mystery. Having said this, I'm not going to try to argue you into submission. Each of us is entitled to believe what we believe and I think we are going around in circles now. Have a good day.

by jutewe on 12/24/2008 07:32:07 PM EST

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Atheist and agnostic are two different things. | 57 comments (57 topical, 0 hidden)