People do follow the Bible | 27 comments (27 topical, 0 hidden)
And yet... (none / 0)

"I honestly wouldn't touch a King James or other book that either had an incorrect translation or was missing actual books of the Bible!"

Then you DO read ancient Greek? You don't seriously think the Catholics left everything in and didn't fiddle with what was there, do you? If so, I have a bridge for sale, AND a car for you to drive across it!

Face it. You have NO FREAKIN' IDEA what an ORIGINAL bible would consist of - how many chapters, books, contributors - anything! All you CAN be sure of is that NONE of it was written until 50 years AFTER the fact, dependent on passed down through word of mouth fables. Ever heard of "Chinese Whispers"?

"First, love God with your entire heart, mind, soul, and strength"

See, now that's another place where the whole thing falls apart. What sort of petulant, spoiled brat of a god insists on this sort of adulation? This is something you would expect from Britney Spears, not a creator if all there is. It's very petty on his part.

Okay, so you ARE one of those who reject the Old Testament. Fine. Want to talk about your pedophile god? Or do you also doubt that this omniscient being impregnated a 12 year old (guess he couldn't find someone his own age...) and then left her on her own. Real nice deity you got there. In a way, it makes all deadbeat dads true believers.

See, the thing is, I didn't take the worst of the bible. There is plenty more bad and worse in there - I just grabbed the first bronze ring that came around.

Like all religions, yours is based on a lie. Yet you expect others to ignore reality and grant you some sort of pass because you have "faith." What an inglorious waste of time and resources. Let the pope melt down his gold and feed the poor, then come back and talk about what a great thing Catholicism is.

by MedfordTim on 12/29/2008 12:55:31 AM EST

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Depends on how you define "Silent" (none / 0)
And the Vatican was silent during WWII, because their team was represented by the Axis.

The New York Times editorial on December 25, 1941 (Late Day edition, p. 24):
"The voice of Pius XII is a lonely voice in the silence and darkness enveloping Europe this Christmas... he is about the only ruler left on the Continent of Europe who dares to raise his voice at all... the Pope put himself squarely against Hitlerism... he left no doubt that the Nazi aims are also irreconcilable with his own conception of a Christian peace."

The New York Times editorial on December 25, 1942 (Late Day edition, p. 16) states:
"This Christmas more than ever he is a lonely voice crying out of the silence of a continent... Pope Pius expresses as passionately as any leader on our side the war aims of the struggle for freedom when he says that those who aim at building a new world must fight for free choice of government and religious order. They must refuse that the state should make of individuals a herd of whom the state disposes as if they were lifeless things."

While Protestants were giving away large chunks of "Catholic" Europe to Hitler who managed to kill at least 3 Million Catholics in Poland, were was the snake handlers you were so fond of Kenny?

I don't deny the Church has faults to numerous to list here, but I am sick of misinformed idiots posting the same crap they read on the "Internets" with origins from the same half baked religious wackos you claim to despise.

Up next, Ken explains how the Catholic Church is really "The Great Whore" and Obama is the "Anti-Christ".

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 12/29/2008 03:54:33 PM EST

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Rejecting The Old Testament (none / 0)
That always pisses me off, Christians who dismiss the Old Testament as irrelevant because of Jesus and the New Testament.

Aside from the fact that they still quote from the OT when it comes go homosexuality, the supposed moral foundation of our behavior is found in the OLD Testament.

I'm referring of course to The Ten Commandments. So if the Old Testament is irrelevant I guess we can ignore that pesky list of rules to.

by Tom Hanc on 12/29/2008 03:55:57 PM EST

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The 10 commandments is not "pesky" (none / 0)
I mean, it has things like "Do not kill," and "Do not commit adultery," - things that would help anyone live a pleasant life today, don't you think? :)

by jjr5 on 12/30/2008 01:49:54 AM EST

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Yes (none / 0)
I agree that common sense rules (most if not all of which existed in some form prior to the Bible being written) are good.

I believe rational, secular people also agree that not killing and stealing (etc.) are good things. The problem comes in with abortion, stem cell research, gay marriage, ineffective abstinence only education, physician assisted suicide, masturbation, sex outside of marriage and the list goes on.

by Tom Hanc on 12/30/2008 02:32:17 AM EST

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Cherry picking (none / 0)
didn't see that one coming :-)

what about the first commandment, he? The first commandment is just another word for intolarence, it's also a sign of a very petty and insecure god.

Also "Honor your father and mother" seems nice, but what if your parents abuse you, does this also count for the 6 yo girl who's raped by her father, if we go by history: YES, the churches have covered up most abuses.

what gives it an extra something of course is the punishment for breaking the commandments: death.

by callisto on 12/30/2008 11:03:03 AM EST

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How come... (none / 0)

....it's always the DAD who's the abuser? Can't we just once have an analogy where the mother is raping the six year old son? Dads get a bum rap....

:-)

by MedfordTim on 12/30/2008 01:16:08 PM EST

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Well, God admits that he is a jealous God (none / 0)
and that he wants us to follow only him. I think God was being very up front about that. Think about the consequences of if he wasn't jealous - with the pretexts he puts for what are at stake for us, who could he not be jealous.

by jjr5 on 02/14/2009 01:04:49 AM EST

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I'm not expecting any pass (none / 0)
I am just expressing my point of view. I appreciate the fact that you shared yours. Thanks.

by jjr5 on 12/30/2008 01:37:30 AM EST

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I'm not expecting a pass (none / 0)
I am just expressing my point of view. I appreciate the fact that you shared yours. I think it is important. Thanks.

by jjr5 on 12/30/2008 01:39:35 AM EST

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People do follow the Bible | 27 comments (27 topical, 0 hidden)