F%*# Roman Polanski | 57 comments (57 topical, 0 hidden)
I agree with this view. (none / 0)
The only reason we can never know the truth is because Polanski never submitted to a trial of his peers. I don't want to throw stones--if I were in his shoes I don't know if I would flee or stick around to find out just how well the justice system works. Its a pretty expensive affair from what I hear. But then I wouldn't "shoplift the pootie" either.

by hazmat on 12/03/2008 07:58:12 PM EST

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but I disagree (none / 0)
with the view that this is conservative vs. liberal. Its conservatives who have done the most to undermine the rule of law after all. All that crap about pluto and mars undermined an otherwise decent post. Nice try, I guess.

by hazmat on 12/03/2008 08:00:30 PM EST

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All things are Red vs. Blue to conservatives. (none / 0)

by Spencer on 12/03/2008 08:07:36 PM EST

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seriously (none / 0)
did any of that stuff happen to you? Is that why you're conservative? Because you're profoundly unlucky? Are you implying that conservatives are just embittered losers? I hope you're wrong, man.

by hazmat on 12/03/2008 09:00:55 PM EST

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once again you didn't read your links (none / 0)
that article about "affirmative action" would enforce a reason to have affirmative action which whites now need as much as blacks, if not more.  That was a DEMOCRATIC idea, and that link to the "held up at gunpoint" article had absolutely no reference to anyone being held up at gunpoint, although i get what you were "trying" to say.  I swear, sometimes i think you just hope people don't click the links and won't check your facts or something.  We don't follow rush limbaugh, so those tactics won't work here buddy.  Maybe you're finally coming out to of your democratic closet, and figuring out that your beliefs are closer to the "obamabots" than you think.  I mean, we've agreed on a lot of things today Ken, i'd be scared if i were you...you're catching the black.

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 12/03/2008 10:43:49 PM EST

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what are you talking mayne? (none / 0)
i have no problem admitting that asian americans on the whole test better than any other american race, INCLUDING whites, because they don't fuck around with their kids.  You are the one misreading the article, it means that WHITE people NEED affirmative action too.  Your blinders are on because that makes YOU uncomfortable...i don't care about testing standards personally, so I have no problem acknowledging socioeconomcally affected educational testing trends.

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 12/04/2008 01:24:55 AM EST

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Not sure if you're aware of this (none / 0)
but Barack Obama is two steps ahead of you on this, as he is with everything else. Welcome to the 21st century, KenTX.

by hazmat on 12/04/2008 02:24:36 AM EST

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not one of my issues, really (none / 0)
but you don't win anyone to your side with reckless exaggeration. Wanna try one more time?

by hazmat on 12/04/2008 02:41:56 AM EST

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I have to disagree with haz here (none / 0)
and completely agree regarding the reformation of AA you just suggested.  I've always felt it should be this way.

by jarett on 12/04/2008 11:38:35 AM EST

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In my defense (none / 0)

I didn't offer any statements to agree or disagree with. Here's the chronology.

Ken points out that quotas are bad.

I presented a quote from Obama in which he states that quotas are bad and AA needs reformation.

In response, Ken stipulates that the problem with AA is that Obama's children could be favored in admissions at oregon state over an asian dude with higher grades, because they have both the advantages of sick wealth and the racial quota.

This isn't an appropriate response for 2 reasons: fundamentally it appears that Obama and Ken are in some agreement, but Ken doesn't want that to hang out there too long so he digs up an extreme example from the current situation which is irrelevant to the discussion of outcomes for policies that have yet to be enacted. Second, the example he cites is an extreme one. It is plausible but rare, and it should be noted that extreme wealth probably trumps all other advantages regardless of skin color. I think there's a discussion to be had here, but as I said before, ken didn't help his cause with this example. I ain't buyin' it.

There's a more fundamental issue, that of social engineering. That's the debate Ken wants to have. If we quibble about reforming AA Ken has already lost.

by hazmat on 12/04/2008 12:11:58 PM EST

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I guess what I'm saying is (none / 0)
Ken's position is clear--its just surprisingly liberal.

by hazmat on 12/04/2008 12:36:50 PM EST

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If that's the case (none / 0)
why didn't you support Obama? He is for killing Islamic Jihadis (he's the only one who said so in a debate, in fact), and for cutting most people's taxes. And he's liberal on most other issues. If you're not in the category that is likely to receive a cut, I can't say I feel too bad for you.

by hazmat on 12/04/2008 03:45:44 PM EST

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Bush raised taxes more (none / 0)

than any president in recent memory. That was before the bailout. Remember, spending is taxes. Not paying as you go equals more taxes on top in the form of accumulating interest. If you don't understand the relationship between spending and taxes, the republicans are going to continue to eat your lunch. You lose. Actually, you could think of it as a win, now that a fiscal conservative is taking over.

This figure is from '04. How do you think it looks after this year? If you really care about taxes, your vote for mccain was a mistake.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

by hazmat on 12/04/2008 10:11:56 PM EST

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That's the first time (none / 0)
I've ever been out of breath just from using my scroll wheel.  Whew...  ;)

by Spencer on 12/05/2008 05:48:27 AM EST

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sorry dude (none / 0)
I have no clue what I did wrong there. Otherwise I would try to avoid it next time.

by hazmat on 12/05/2008 12:29:56 PM EST

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Presidents don't have control (none / 0)

over defense spending? My friend, if this president had spent 1.5 trillion dollars on some war that was beneficial to us, instead of the Iraq war, I wouldn't be laughing as hard as I am right now at your state of extreme delusion and denial.

Of course, I don't know if Obama will be able to cut non-defense spending, but you can hardly demand that after what bush did. He grew the budget in both areas, more than all of his predecessors. Obama has already signaled his intention to try to spend our way out the republican depression that we're in. Get used to that phrase. What's on the table here is whether he can do the right things soon enough. I'm pretty certain that McCain, as honorable as he is, is going senile. He couldn't govern his way out of a wet paper bag. Thank god he lost.

by hazmat on 12/05/2008 12:27:48 PM EST

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p.s. (none / 0)
I could have posted either of these graphs but chose the one I did because it specifically adresses the issue of tax raises. It clearly shows that Reagan in both of his terms and Clinton in his first term were the best of modern presidents in reducing taxes, and that Bush II is in a category with LBJ in terms of non-defense spending increases.

by hazmat on 12/05/2008 12:39:05 PM EST

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no excuses here (none / 0)
dude, I don't believe in the current state of affirmative action, and as someone else pointed out, "YOUR" AA plan is "OBAMA'S" AA plan, so you support obama.  I never use aa on my tests, and i fill in other.  I got my college education on my merits, not my color, so your rants don't even begin to piss me off.  You're way off here.  You obviously don't remeber my retort about not believing in AA.  I am consistent as fuck because I have morals that are easy to stand by.  We're not quibbling over any fine points, you have completely misrepresented the article.  If anything, it's proof that the Asians in that area worked harder as youth than the whites or blacks, so the AA needs to compensate for both of those groups, NOT that affirmative action caused this...you're confused mayne.

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 12/04/2008 03:56:03 PM EST

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cough cough (none / 0)

by chrisandyasemin on 12/04/2008 04:00:19 PM EST

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i figured you'd say that (none / 0)
what planet are you on?  you just made some shit up, and you continue to not to aknowledge nuance.  he supports affirmative action NOW, but he still aims to change it to needs based not race based.  You're spinning his words into something he didn't say at all.  I've heard him literally say the words "need based affirmative action, not race based", now show me somewhere he says it's okay to discriminate against white men.  You can't do it, because he says the exact opposite.  You're just putting your blinders on for some reason.  Snap out of it, he agrees with you, or you agree with him however you want to break it to yourself.

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 12/04/2008 11:30:43 PM EST

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not good at nuance are you? (none / 0)
do you not understand that he believes that the current state of affairs still need affirmative action, and did you just wipe your memory, or did you not hear his response about his daughter vs. a white young man.  It is the exact point you tried to make at the beginning of this conversation, and he responded directly to it, but somehow you missed it.  Let me explain the "nuance" portion.  Currently, there ARE social disparities in many parts of the educational system in America.  Some of these disparities HAPPEN to fall along racial lines because of other socioeconomic factors, and in some areas the ASIANS are more advantaged, and in some areas WHITES are more advantaged, and in some ares BLACKS are more advantaged.  Now, he DOES want to change the system to needs based during his administration, and nowhere in the video does he indicate otherwise, what he SAID was that he does think affirmative action will still be necessary, but you're imposing the OLD AA on his definition, when really he has the same idea of affirmative action as you.  Ultimately affirmative action should not be necessary, but at the same time that is not true EVERYWHERE in the U.S.  Personally, I believe all black schools are racist, and I turned down a full ride to Florida A & M to go to my current school because I think black schools are fucked, and they are a nasty artifact of segregation that for some reason blacks have stupidly held on to as symbols of pride.  Personally, i think a white person SHOULD get aa if the school is predominately any other race, although if the whites are richer than the minority, then they probably don't need it, thus the reason it should be wealth based.  it's not unconsitutional if aa is making sure all people are able to pursue happiness through education.  Personally, I think all black schools are more unconstitutional than aa, but technically they're not ALL black, just like 99%.  I was really pissed when some black school tried not to let a white person be the valedictorian because of his race.  That's when I say blacks can go fuck themselves too.  So, to recap:  Obama believes in needs based, and he's the fucking president so if you want to believe it or not, you're only going to make YOURSELF upset by not coming to terms with Obama's centrism.  

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 12/05/2008 06:59:56 PM EST

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Obama's centrism (none / 0)
Its amazing how many conservatives are expressing shock and surprise that Obama is governing the way he promised instead of as a socialist. They're still cooking their own intelligence ;-)

by hazmat on 12/05/2008 09:07:35 PM EST

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not governing? (none / 0)

You seem to think I made some careless cheeseball comment, but that is not the case.

Obama is indeed governing. Do you think that the process of appointing the various cabinet members are not among the most important decisions the President makes as a governor? The office of the President-elect is governing in some limited capacity. It may seem unprecedented what's happening right now, but there is no question in my mind that Obama is attempting to fill a leadership vacuum while allowing, to the extent possible, the Bush administration (which Peggy Noonan describes as a "collapsed incumbency") to save some face. Equally true is that the Bush administration, by all accounts is cooperating with Obama's transition team (apart from ramming through regulations which every president does anyway). I don't know why you thought this was worth a rebuttal, but that's my view of things.

by hazmat on 12/07/2008 04:28:07 PM EST

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so it was blogs that turned you to the dark side (none / 0)

I grew up around conservatives, went to church every week as a compulsive family activity, and even developed a fondness for it. The conservatives that influenced me were of the WWII generation, but they weren't partisans like today. They were the herbert walker types that viewed the laffer curve with suspicion, and never forgot that they fought side by side (or below decks) against totalitarian aggression. The phrase "we are americans first" meant something to them, and they didn't secretly hide the sentiment that we are americans first but only if we're in the same party. I remember one Navy Veteran in particular that new I was a democrat, but quietly and cheerfully said he'd hoped I would consider voting for Bob Dole, becuase he was a man of character. Since he passed away I almost regret my vote for Clinton for his sake and people like him.

To such people who are my lifelong role-models (and liberals of their generation), your word is your bond, as it is mine. I think they are only republican out of habit these days. I don't hold it against them. Anyone who pays attention closely like my father, a Reagan Democrat (now a registered republican), has been completely turned off by the GOP. My father proudly tells republicans in his office that he is a "RINO", which used to be an epithet. He keeps his registration in hopes that the party will one day try to win his vote back.

If conservative means fiscal responsibility at home and prudence abroad, then that's me. If it means recognizing the important but limited role of government to regulate commerce and financial markets, then that's me. Where the private sector fails for an extended period of time, as it has with health care, the government has an obligation to offer some remedy. The democratic party is the only party currently promoting those values, so they have my vote for the foreseeable future.

by hazmat on 12/03/2008 10:59:28 PM EST

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it's not black and white (none / 0)
that's why we agree on this issue.  If everything were conservative vs. liberal, it would be easy.  if you want to say I'm a conservative on this issue because Polanski is a chester, go ahead...if you think I'll ever vote republican, I would wager money on it, and send you a voter registration form for proof forever...face it ken, we agree sometimes, so that means you're a little bit liberal inside.  If you're as much liberal as I am conservative, i still win because I can deal with being called conservative.  How's it feel to be a lib?

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 12/03/2008 10:23:35 PM EST

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75% (none / 0)
I guess I'm about 75% neoliberal then, except when you get to laissez faire economics.  it just doesn't take into account the factor (x) of human greed.  It's everpresent and incalculable, and it has always proven laissez faire misjudged it.  I think in real life, you can leave the markets on their own to a certain degree, but once the balance of pay to the top vs. the bottom where the production actually happens gets too disparate, the market will get more value from the trading inflation than revenue dividends, and that's when it's on its way to failure.  The simplest solution is to make a middle class that can consume at the same rate of production, otherwise the mass-production model(i.e. g.m.,ford,chrysler) will implode on itself because there are not enough consumers in the market.

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 12/03/2008 10:57:19 PM EST

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Gosh, never knew (none / 0)
that Ken had any opinion on gay issues, until now. It was always about lower taxes and killin' jihadists. The gun stuff I could predict from a TXn. But please, let's hear more about how letting your two male neighbors get hitched would violate your rights. A Culture Warrior finally comes out of the closet.

by ashbul on 12/03/2008 10:48:23 PM EST

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Almost forgot (none / 0)
to mention, they're both Roustabouts.

by ashbul on 12/03/2008 10:50:48 PM EST

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All it means (none / 0)
is that you have to talk to your kids about the things they encounter in everyday life.  This includes field trips at school (in your somewhat silly example), some precocious 10 year old stealing his dad's Playboy, something they see on TV, etc.

This is parenting.

by jarett on 12/04/2008 11:35:43 AM EST

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Field Trip! Yes! (none / 0)
I wish I'd gotten to get off schoolwork to go to weddings. I like cake.

by ashbul on 12/04/2008 09:07:02 PM EST

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Let the record show (none / 0)
Ken hates cake and doesn't pay attention.

by ashbul on 12/05/2008 02:21:15 AM EST

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Personally (none / 0)
I can't wait to pay high taxes and then beat the crap out of my representatives to make sure I'm getting something out of them.

And your six year old twins tell you about an upcoming field trip to see their female teacher marry another woman.

God bless, go forward.

And you get held up at gunpoint.

... so you decide banning guns is a good idea?

(Sorry, but you walked into that one.)

And you find out that the number of Asians attending Oregon State is now being restricted, because that minority is "over-represented"

Silly, and something should be done about it.

And Democrats resume promoting outlawing the Second Amendment

lol no.

and driving faster than 55 MPH.

You mean GASP a sacrifice of some kind should be asked of Americans in a time of war?  Wow.  How outrageous.

That said, I would be in favor of a wholesale revamping of traffic law in general, as some cities' use of traffic law as a revenue generator (I'm looking at you, New York) enrages me to no end... but I digress.

by jarett on 12/04/2008 11:33:36 AM EST

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