Hillary Clinton's Only Remaining Hope: Steal This Election | 28 comments (28 topical, 0 hidden)
Wha? (none / 0)
1)First of all I am not a Clinton Supporter.

2)I suppose you are joking but I like winning.

by LORD FOUL on 03/12/2008 03:24:55 PM EST

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You're not an Obama supporter (none / 0)
(not even close) and you think Hillary has a better chance of winning. Oh, and you don't like McCain.

If someone had to describe your position, I think "Clinton Supporter" is the most logical choice.

by Tom Hanc on 03/12/2008 05:00:31 PM EST

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support (none / 1)
Words mean nothing, I have said numerous times that I am a supporter of Edwards. He was our best chance to win.

Personally it would not break my heart to see the DNC step in and make Edwards or Gore the nominee, both would have a better chance to win in November.

Clinton has two important edges over Obama and those are experience fighting Pubs and appealing to the middle of the GENERAL electorate.

My concern with Clinton isn't the hatred of the right but the hatred of the left (many might stay home rather than vote for her)

My concerns with Obama are these

What experience does he have "running" against the Pub machine? Is he willing to fight fire with fire? I have seen the race card and little else.

Dems never seem to learn from history. Election after election the Dems have taken the high road and have gotten creamed under the avalance of smear thrown at them by the Pubs. Obama is a candidate running a "new" type of campaign, playing a new type of politics. (taking the high road). If you don't learn from history you are doomed to repeat it

by LORD FOUL on 03/12/2008 07:40:48 PM EST

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Really? (none / 0)
So your argument why Obama can't beat McCain is that the DNC nominating him is too ethical to work?

PS:  Words mean everything; that's why we use 'em.

by richardshort2001 on 03/13/2008 10:46:03 AM EST

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spin cycle (none / 0)
I was talking about my words, I answer a question and it gets asked it again. I write a sentence and it gets twisted

Please read what I wrote.

I never said Obama can't win nor did I say that the DNC nominating him would be too ethical.

Can I make it any simpler.

1) Obama has no experience at fighting the Pubs at this level.
2) Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore and Kerry all ran ethical positive campaigns. they all share another thing in common THEY ALL LOST. their unwillingness to fight back, their unwillingness to really go negative cost them election after election. The only exception was Clinton and that was because he was willing to fight back.

History teaches us that when Dems take the high road they lose and when Dems fight fire with fire they win.

You can't change washington unless you are IN washington

Are you proud of the campaigns run by Cater, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore and Kerry? I'm not

Obama can win in November but only if he is A) willing to fight back and B) willing to get his hands dirty.

by LORD FOUL on 03/13/2008 12:38:32 PM EST

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Hillary Clinton's Only Remaining Hope: Steal This Election | 28 comments (28 topical, 0 hidden)