haven't our national policymakers drawn the same conclusions you have?

Why hasn't the scientific and engineering community taken up this banner?  If you're right, this is ENORMOUSLY important to pay attention to RIGHT THIS SECOND.  If you're right, we need an Apollo program-style alternative energy plan NOW.

Why isn't the academic community, scientific community, engineering community and government behaving as if you're right?

Not trolling, and I'm on your side.  This is a serious question.

by jarett on 03/29/2008 05:18:14 PM EST

Frankly I don't think many of them are paying attention, and they certainly don't know the first thing about the oil industry.  They tend to believe EIA reports that claim production will contintue to grow and meet demand when their own data and exploration results don't seem to support those conclusions. 

The also tend to trust OPEC when they say they have "plenty of excess capacity" and could flood the market if they wanted to.  Anyone want to guess why OPEC has not raised output over the past few years even though prices have gone through the roof and there is significant risk of demand distruction?  I hope I'm wrong and they're just greedy, but signs point to the idea that they may be pumping all out and in fact the world has NO excess capacity. 

Think of it this way, if you have 30-40% of a valuable resource and you can either pump it today at record prices and get $100+/barrel, or save it for later when you SAY prices will drop to a much lower level, what are you going to do?  Traders on the oil markets (who are playing for big stakes) have been calling their bluff.  They have been betting that they Saudi's do not in fact have the extra 2mpbd they claim to have.  However, OPEC cannot allow anyone to realize that they don't have excess capacity, otherwise they effectively have no power, or at least very little power.  They can't really lower production because most of the member states are too dependent upon the revenues to maintain power through huge subsidies and handouts and now they can't raise production because they're pumping full out.

Anyway, all basically my own analysis.  I don't claim to know all the answers or know the future, but from what I can tell from the data I can see, it seems unlikly that things will get much better anytime soon.  I could however be completely wrong, and a ramp up of investment could flood the world with oil again, but even if it does, the real peak will occur eventually the only real question is when.  What matter is, is it better to plan for the posibility that the peak will occur in 10 years and it doesn't happen for 30, or is it better to plan thinking that it won't happen for 30 years and it sneaks up on us in 10 or less?   

by alphasigmookie on 03/29/2008 05:40:42 PM EST

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But at the risk of causing mass anuerisms or the nubification of troll fingers I am starting to think we should nationalize the oil industry.  If all this is true and it is as vital to our country as we all think it is just too damn important for the outcome to be "LARGEST PROFITS IN HISTORY!!!"

I say this with all due solemnity.  My grandfather was an accomplished Exxon pipeline engineer and much of my family's wealth is tied up in Exxon.  Just a reaction I start to have when I get scared by the future of oil. 

by ProfRich on 03/31/2008 12:14:56 AM EST

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If as you say much of your families wealth is in exxon I would consider some diversification.  Exxon will do well, but as you said eventually angry americans who are sick of $4, 5, 6 gas will come for their head (and their profits) even though they have nothing to do with the problem.  These types of actions of course are counter productive as they reduce the money avaliable for reinvestment into energy infrastructure. 

The other problem with Exxon, Shell, Bp, Chevron..ect. is that they are now way too big to replace their reserves.  They can't be bothered to go after the small bits of oil that remain so they are in effect in the process of liquidating their asset base.  You are much better off investing in mid-ter exploration/produciton companies that can capitalize on the smaller average size of discoveries. 

by alphasigmookie on 03/31/2008 02:04:58 PM EST

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Exxon bonused my grandfather in stock for decades.  Now he has millions in Exxon stock and has zero interest in owning anything else.  They gave it to him and he won't touch it.  He is a (great) old man and set in his ways.  So, while I completely agree with you, I have no choice here.

by ProfRich on 03/31/2008 04:44:16 PM EST

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Gotcha...however he may also want to keep an eye on tax policies if the democrats take office.  Current long term capital gains are only 15% but may raise if Obama or Hillary roll back the Bush tax cuts.  Could cost you (your family) hundreds of thousands of dollars in inheritance. 

by alphasigmookie on 03/31/2008 05:37:04 PM EST

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On one side I have a grandmother who is obsessed with avoiding the inheritance tax and maximizing what she leaves and on the other I have a grandfather who is unwilling to do anything.  That is the way it is.  But then again none of it is mine so I can't say anything.

by ProfRich on 03/31/2008 06:09:01 PM EST

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