A Day In The Life Of Joe Conservative | 53 comments (53 topical, 0 hidden)
You idiot libs have never understood (none / 1)
A competitive capitalist system can provide all of those services.  We don't need government to tax us in order to provide those services.  If a meat packer, for instance, kills a bunch of people with bad meat then the market will do its job and force them out of business.  Caveat emptor ("Let the buyer beware").  And if some rural county can't afford electricity, why should I pay for it?  Let them move to the city or build their own generating plants.  They can take out loans like everyone else.

I am not that ignorant "Joe Conservative" you wrote about.  I want businesses to provide those services.  I want my business to provide those services.  Sure, you're not going to get exactly what you want, but you're going to get what I can profitably provide.  The rest isn't worth it and I don't want to pay taxes so that you can have it.  I've got mine and to hell with you.

I don't care if others don't live as well as I do.  If they deserved it then they would.  I don't care if others don't have make the same opportunities that I've had made for myself.  They can work for me and try to claw their way to the top.  (But as long as I'm holding on to the top of the rope, they'll climb only as high as I let them -- which won't be very far.)

by KenTeX on 03/03/2008 07:37:51 PM EST

Wow, nick hijacking (none / 0)
How incredibly original and hilarious!

by jarett on 03/03/2008 07:52:46 PM EST

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Do you object? (none / 0)

by KenTeX on 03/03/2008 08:07:39 PM EST

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I do. (none / 1)
Look, it was really funny when they did it to "bytchbang", mainly because he was so out there beyond the orbit of Neptune, but now it seems more like a cheap trick.  It's confusing and getting annoying.  So really, I for one would prefer people not do that anymore.

by bfaul on 03/03/2008 10:06:11 PM EST

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But I'm not here to make things easy for you. (none / 0)
If someone in charge makes a rule that I can't be me, then I'll deal with that when it happens.  I'll probably try to break that rule.  But until then, why should I care what some liberal idiot thinks?  I'm using the rules as they are right now for my purposes.  What's wrong with that?

by KenTeX on 03/03/2008 10:42:12 PM EST

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Well hell (none / 0)
I give up.

by bfaul on 03/03/2008 11:35:29 PM EST

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To be fair (none / 0)
his sentiment is correct. I'm referring to the content of his writing.

But I agree we should avoid nic stealing, 100%.

by Tom Hanc on 03/03/2008 08:08:06 PM EST

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No one in charge says I can't. (none / 0)
Whoever runs this place can stop me anytime they want to.  Besides, how do you know that I'm not KenTX's alter ego?  I swear to you that I am.  I am Honest KenTX.  I won't be surprised if you get confused, though.  You are, after all, just another idiot liberal.

by KenTeX on 03/03/2008 08:24:26 PM EST

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HEY IMPOSTER!!! (none / 0)
IM KENS ALTER EGO!!! HAVEN'T WE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT!!!

:)

by bobo1 on 03/03/2008 11:09:49 PM EST

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Having fun, are we? (none / 0)
How could you possibly be KenTX's alter ego?  Nobody knows what the hell you stand for.  First you say one thing and then another.  Plus, half the stuff you say is just plain crazy.  You say some things about yourself and your views that are probably honest, but then you say things that come from left field.  What's worse, you've even said things that sound like you actually care about others.

You, more than anyone else, should know that I've never been like that.  I always either lie or express no judgment at all except my happiness when liberals lose.  Therefore, you can't be my alter or KenTX's alter or whatever.  I'm always honest and I express my judgements, and I keep my essential "me-ness": I still don't give a damn about anyone else.

You may think we're "friends", but we're not friends.  Sure, I respect some things about you -- your "Favorite Question", for instance.  That kind of insulting, "fuck everyone" attitude really turns me on.  I'll probably still use you from time to time, too.  You've been a useful ally sometimes.  But mostly you give me indigestion, so please be offended when I ignore you.

by KenTeX on 03/03/2008 11:40:00 PM EST

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Thanks for the attitude adjustment... (none / 0)
My Caucasians must be kicking in now...

I cant stop laughing!!!!

Good deal, I know my place now...

:)

by bobo1 on 03/03/2008 11:44:07 PM EST

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Bozo (none / 0)
KenTex with a "E," how seriously can anyone take Bobo?  His name is Bobo, for chrissakes.  He gave himself a clown/monkey name. Stands to reason he would make clown/monkey posts about his clown/monkey opinionations.

by OneHitKill on 03/04/2008 04:11:14 AM EST

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Who are you!?! (none / 0)
I demand to know!

by Spencer on 03/03/2008 07:56:56 PM EST

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You don't know? Wake up, idiot. (none / 0)
I am an honest Republican.

Sometimes I just can't hold it in anymore.  Sometimes I get tired of the lies.  Sometimes I want to scream it from the rooftops: I want more of everything, and I don't much care how I get it!

Of course, I can't admit that all the time because some ignorant dope that I'm trying to convince to lower my taxes might think I'm selfish and don't care about him.  But sometimes I just can't hold it in anymore and I have to be honest about who I am and what I want.

I'll try to avoid doing that to much, but when I let it out, you'll know that I'm an honest Republican, and that's all you really need to know.

by KenTeX on 03/03/2008 08:18:59 PM EST

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If Conservativism can provide such services..... (none / 0)
If Conservativism can provide such services, why doesn't it?  The Republicans have basically run 107 years out of the last 147 of our nation, through the presidency.  Let's see, we have had monopolies, the gilded age, rampant inflation, the great depression, epic deficits.  Further, the Republicans that I have known have always treated their workers like masters.  It is such a strange thing, being the party of Lincoln. 

If Conservativism was such a great philosophy, why is it everytime that they have complete control, our economy tanks?  Maybe your ideas are basically bankrupt.  Maybe selfishness, and greed, are not workable ideas.  Maybe war, does not help the economy.  Maybe Republicanism is a pile of lies!

by Truthand4Justice on 03/03/2008 10:10:47 PM EST

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To be fair (none / 1)
you can't blame the great Depression on the Republicans.

I mean come on, it's not like there was a Republican president, a Republican controlled House and a Republican Controlled Senate at the time (in addition to 5 consecutive tax cuts directly preceeding the event).  Oh wait...never mind.

As for war helping the economy, it does but only in the short run.  The return you get on bombs and bullets only comes once.  By contrast, you use that money to build schools, roads and bridges (etc.) and you get a return on investment that lasts decades if not centuries.

by Tom Hanc on 03/03/2008 10:16:38 PM EST

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Dead from Meat? (none / 1)

Well, of course a bunch of dead customers will be bad business for a meat-packing company! 

I just don't want it to be MY KIDS who are shitting out their guts and dying from dehydration due to Ecoli because one of the most technologically advanced nations on the planet was waiting for market forces to sort things out.

AND, the reality is, the news cycle that featured my dead kids would be over in about 24 hours, the meat industry could afford ads to polish their image, as well as a hefty contribution to politicians who would continue to let them run a dirtier meat packing plant than...(there was a Tenderloin District rave joke brewing here - which I'll skip).

The meat packers will do all that while I'm deciding whether to pay my rural power plant loan, or medical insurance for the next time my surviving family decides to risk eating meat. 

by gdoud on 03/03/2008 10:35:15 PM EST

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Exactly (none / 1)
That's the achilles heel of the libertarian, free market will solve all problems ideology. 

The fact is, it's all well and good unless you or *your friends and family* are the ones that are injured or killed by unsafe food or other products. The whole "market will sort it out" line is much less compelling in that context.

Not to mention the fact that a system that relies SO heavily on individual responsibility and knowledge means people would be even MORE reliant on the media.  And the media relies on advertising revenue, often from large corporations that don't appreciate stories that might damage their bottom line.

Uh-oh, but who's going to stop the media from being influenced in such a way?  That would require (yeah, you guessed it) government intervention, which doesn't exist in libertarian/conservative fantasy land.

by Tom Hanc on 03/03/2008 10:51:13 PM EST

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Like there's a chance we'll ever burn out. (none / 0)
I'm here to make sure that we don't.  I want you to live, kid, because I want to live.  And you know that keeping some of this stuff all bottled up has been real stressful sometimes.  I'm here to help relieve that.  We can't have you growing an ulcer, now, can we?

Now, quick, log on again and reply to that idiot bastard liberal who thinks he's a know-it-all.

by KenTeX on 03/03/2008 11:53:05 PM EST

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give it up, you guys lost (none / 0)

Oh yeah, how does a "competitive capitalist system" provide better health insurance when the ONLY place to profit in such an endeavor is to take it out of the hide of the customer?  There's 0% reason to advertise perscription medications or deny coverage to people, yet we spend at least 30% of the money paid into the system on just these things.

There are a lot of places where competition and capitalism are great, but not everything.  And if you don't understand that you shouldn't be banned from this forum, you should be banned from the planet because you are a fucking idiot.

And please keep the fuck off my roads, don't bother to call my police when you get mugged, and definitely don't think about breathing my air which my government keeps from being completely polluted.

Some people pretend like you conservatives are just working from the wrong frame, but really you're just stupid, greedy, and stupid.

by ynp7 on 03/04/2008 09:13:25 AM EST

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Yeah? Look who's stupid. (none / 0)
You're subsidizing my medical costs and my retirement.  I get really great tax deductions while my pharmaceutical investments soar on rising prices.  You don't really think that's going to change any time soon, do you?  You liberal idiots don't have the guts to change the system.  And just try to keep me off the roads, or stop me from calling the police.  I pay my taxes, even if it doesn't hurt me nearly as much as it hurts you.

by KenTeX on 03/04/2008 11:01:17 AM EST

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A Day In The Life Of Joe Conservative | 53 comments (53 topical, 0 hidden)