Here and Now...

I'm not here to sway people one way or another. I really dont care who you vote for - Thats one of the great things about being an American - you have your say and I have mine.

The primary is past me, and I am neither a registered Republican nor Democrat, and in Arizona, you have to belong to a party to vote, so I was left out because I chose to have an independent brain cell... This is why I put very little credence in Primary numbers - they only include the 10-15% who really pay attention, and leave out the majority of people (dont even start whining about "Prove it!" By What Poll" waa waa waa...) Polls are for ninnies who cannot think for themselves - Im afraid thats why many on this blog rely on them heavily... No worries about the AZ primary, I wouldnt select any of these fools anyway even if they let me...


In the general election, its none of your damn business who I vote for - Thats another great thing about being an American - I dont have to reveal my preference to anyone and be subjected to harassment and ridicule. I will say it wont be any of these people, since they do not represent my interests, directly at least... 

My interest in this forum and in the show is to initiate and provoke discussion (thoughtful or otherwise) It is only a few snobs like yourself who get their panties in a knot when someone disagrees with your opinion or states a belief without volumes of direct evidence to support it. I'm perhaps hoping that you will realize why Democrats tend to do poorly in Presidential elections - they dont listen to anyone but themselves.
 
You squash dissent and limit speech by intimidation and name calling - Some participants here are damn near Stalinistic in this respect, and then they wonder why people oppose their opinions and views ...


Im certainly not suggesting that you need to listen to me, but try to look beyond your own self rightousness for a few moments and smell some of the shit you're shoveling... Dont be such a whiny little ninny...

Anyway, my question to you is this - Why are you worried about it? - I was asking this Nick86 kid a question on economics. This didnt have anything to do with you...

Thanks for your time...

:)

by bobo1 on 04/17/2008 03:29:12 PM EST

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You have nothing to add.

You believe nothing can change.

You stand for nothing.

You think that everyone agrees with you except those who post explicitly otherwise.

You think that polls are completely unreliable and we should all just trust you that you know where people stand on every issue yet you think we are Stalinists.

You go to this site, log in and post multiple comments a day but think its strange that people respond to these posts.

You constantly tell people they are wrong but if someone questions what you believe they are "snobs" who are trying to "stifle your opinions".

The basis for this is that you just know they are wrong despite the fact that they are clearly working hard to educate themselves on the issues.

You get upset when people call you names but your favorite words are snob, Obamabots, elitists and kool-aid.

You are right.  I should leave you alone.  This is pointless. 


by ProfRich on 04/17/2008 03:47:07 PM EST

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I add quite a bit - there are a lot of people who generate genuine discussion from mine and other threads... I think thats adding - It just isnt adding what you want...

I believe things can change. I believe change is the only true constant in the universe. I just dont think you guys are changing or capable of changing what needs to be changed, not in your present mindset anyway... you are too unwilling to adapt and listen to other opinions for true change...

I stand for myself, my children and my beliefs. I dont stand for things that dont concern me. I dont stand with you on many things, but that doesnt mean I dont have standards. And that doesnt mean we are not together in the fight for our future - we just take different paths to the same eventual truth...

I would be stupid if I believe everyone agrees with me. I think you would be stupid to think that everyone should think like you... That is a classic definition of snobbery and elitism... I certainly know on this site that I am in the minority of prevailing opinion, but thats OK...

I think polls are the tools of people who cannot think or derive opinions for themselves. Especially in this election season, polls are inaccurate and biased and should not be relied upon for forming individual opinions. News organizations and media outlets use excessive polling to generate news stories - and the sheep follow as they always do - not thinking for themselves...


I encourage people to respond to my postings. I like converstaion and banter. If I didn't, why would I bother subjecting myself to you and the others. I do this because I like to...


I give my opinion about comments and issues. If I tell them they are wrong, then in my opinion they are wrong. Are we to be so PC or so afraid to give honest opinions that we cannot tell someone when we disagree? Surely you wouldnt prefer to live in a soceity that stifles exchange and conversation...


As for knowing they are wrong, I really dont care if they are wrong or not - I am glad to see that people are interested and talking about these issues. The discussion and debate is what will move us forward. You are putting way too much analysis into my postings - cant we all just get along? :)


Im not upset by name calling. I work with 7th graders - Name calling really doesn't phase me - It is the Obama supporters and the elitist kool aid drinkers that get their pantiesd in a knot when I call names - thats something you and they will have to deal with... not me.


I dont need you to leave me alone. I want you to stop flaunting your supposed superiority upon myself and the rest of us. But you go ahead and do what you need to do... Im really not worried about it either way. You dont pay my bills, and I dont pay yours...


Thanks as always for your time...


:)




by bobo1 on 04/17/2008 04:14:21 PM EST

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why people say you're actually a republican bobo. not that there's anything wrong with that. The sentiment that liberals are snobs and "stalinist" is not anywhere near the center. I know I'm taking it a little out of context there, but that's an obvious right-wing insult. And besides, as your own comment shows, its not as though you're above name-calling.

I think there are a lot of republicans watching the democratic race closely because they can't stomach what's happened to their party. I also think we should try to include these people in the conversation, because I for one don't have any interest in sharpening my views on people who agree with me, and secondly because Barack is right: this is a great opportunity to expand the party. Does that mean we need to become republican? no. just reasonable and engaging. As long as we can talk with people who recognize facts and data but are willing to disagree about what they mean we're on solid ground. To hell with the rest of'em

by hazmat on 04/17/2008 04:16:03 PM EST

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I have always considred myself a recovering Conservative - G W Bush cured me of my initial ailment, but as you have observed, I have yet to find a home among the other parties. Im certainly not a liberal, but I have resigned myself to accepting that a Liberal will most likely become president...

I thank you for your time and understanding - please read my response to the professor for further detail - people can call me what they will. I am here, and I am staying...

:)

by bobo1 on 04/17/2008 04:35:46 PM EST

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You mean you arent going to use KenTx as your nic anymore?


by Chinese Democracy on 04/18/2008 12:44:46 PM EST

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You have a lot of nerve complaining about nic switching.

by Twba on 04/18/2008 01:02:27 PM EST

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Since I share my brain cell with Ken, could you refresh my memory as to how many nics you have? I cant count that high...

:)

by bobo1 on 04/18/2008 01:04:21 PM EST

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