Yeah, it's OBAMA who keeps playing the race card, sure... | 41 comments (41 topical, 0 hidden)
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Most people don't vote in primaries. I believe the percentage overall is 30% of usual voters. Just check out the popular vote. Look at Illinois. Notice something? The difference in the popular vote.

It is not so much in experience they simply do not know the man. That is why I thought VP was the way for him to go in this election. Do you want the "get to know Obama tour" durring a heated Presidential race? (Please let's not compare Obama to FDR or JFK and I won't compare him to less than favorable Presidents.)

Race doesn't matter? Obama is winning the black vote at about 85% (honestly if Obama were a candidate of any other skin color would he be winning a demographic with that type of margin? especially with no real policy differences with their opponent.) I forgot (in Liberal circles) whites only vote over race.

Did the Welfare Quenn ads compute for you, how about Willie Horton. Rev. Wright just gave a face to those fears and prejudices. Combine that with some of his wife's own comments and a sprinkle of the flag pin/cross your heart issue and yes you have a major problem with that particular demographic (the most important demographic in every presidential election)

Look Clinton was not my first choice or even my second, yes she has issues. Most of them old and extensively vetted. But of the remaining candidates she carries the Demographic need to win this election, this also would give him a time to distance himself from Wright.

Seriously let us be honest, if this were Hillary or any other Candidate would you really ignore the Wright issue? No! I know you believe his explaination but would you believe it from another candidate?

Personally I don't. Wright was "known" for his controversial sermons, that is how he built his church. I do not believe that Obama spent 20 years in the church and never heard him utter something stupid or offensive, it simply defies belief. He knew about this that is why Wright was excluded when Obama announced his candidacy. (but still carried in the campaign) His calling his Grandmother a racist didn't help either. A Republican friend of mine pointed out how Obama didn't give his "race" speech in response to a "racial" crisis like the Jenna 6 or the Duke rape case, he gave it to save his candidacy. I never thought of it that way but he has a point. Especially when Obama stated he could not disavow the man, then stated a week later on the"View" that he would have left the church if Wright were not retiring. Simply put he is just another politician, a good one, but a politician never the less

by LORD FOUL on 04/03/2008 04:19:16 PM EST

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not harder.  So the point still stands they aren't motivated enough to stop him from being "their" nominee, but come Nov. they will vote against all their principles save their racism.  Still not buying it.

That aside, I would have cared more about the Wright deal if he hadn't handled it so well with the "Race Speech".  It was about as unpolitical an answer as any major candidate has ever given.  With one exception, yes I do not believe him when he says he never heard any of it.

Like you with Clinton, Obama was not my first choice.  In fact, I was close to backing Clinton.  Bill killed that for me in SC, and its gone downhill from there IMO. 

The speech though hit our racial divide nail right on the head.  Like Jon Stewart put it (paraphrasing from memory) "And a major candidate for President of the United States spoke to America about race, as if they were adults."  His probable lie about never hearing Wright say those thing directly was just so he wouldn't have to throw his friend under the bus.  Understandable, really...

Does it bug me? A little.  Not enough to want to elect another establishment candidate to the White House though.  I think most agree, I guess we will see who's right, since(let's be honest as you put it) we are almost certain to see whether Obama can beat McCain or not.

Till then...

by richardshort2001 on 04/04/2008 02:22:46 AM EST

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I wouldn't bury her just yet, she seems to have nine lives, like a cat. but it is going to be difficult. Obama has run an excellent campaign but I still have concerns

thanks for the refreshing discussion

until next time

by LORD FOUL on 04/04/2008 09:01:58 AM EST

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Yeah, it's OBAMA who keeps playing the race card, sure... | 41 comments (41 topical, 0 hidden)