More miscommunication.  Maybe I'm just doing a poor job explaining myself here.

I totally agree that most pro-choicers are for the things I mentioned (although I don't hear as much about improving foster care) and that most pro-lifers are dogmatic and unreasonable.

You are preaching to the choir with that, trust me.

What I'm trying to say is, I think we (we as in pro-choicers) don't always do a good job of framing the debate because many of us just say "it's a choice".  Yes, it IS a choice and *should* be a choice, but that argument is less appealing and less comprehensive than it could and should be.

Again, I realize that many people DO make a  comprehensive argument, but many don't IME.  And in fairness, it may well be because pro-lifers often only say "it's murder!" or end sentences with "it's in the Bible" and "God says so", etc, which closes down any hope of a reasonable discussion.

by Tom Hanc on 04/26/2008 03:22:05 PM EST

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The pro-choicer you are describing is a myth created by the pro-lifers to destroy any middle ground or hope for compromise.  Its why they use words like "abortionist".

by ProfRich on 04/26/2008 04:14:35 PM EST

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You tell that to yourself when you're burning in the hellfire with the other atheists and libs!

by Tom Hanc on 04/26/2008 04:25:15 PM EST

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I will.

If hell is the only place I can go to escape all these religious nutjobs then sign me up.   I won't be seeing and "CHOOSE LIFE" license plates down there. 

by ProfRich on 04/26/2008 04:34:33 PM EST

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I can't imagine atheists are legion in Texas.  Although more common in Austin I'm sure!

by Tom Hanc on 04/26/2008 04:36:50 PM EST

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The most famous atheist in US History (at least for being an atheist) is from Austin.  Maedline Murray O'Hare.  And Sara Weddington, who argued Rowe v. Wade, is a law professor at UT.

by ProfRich on 04/26/2008 04:45:46 PM EST

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It's a bonus.

by Tom Hanc on 04/26/2008 07:40:19 PM EST

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