My friend, why is this Hillary's bogus racial spin?

Who has been labeling everything she says as being racist? What race card has she played?

I just read an article written by Dave Sitora that basically accuses whites (in states with a black population of at least 5%) of being racist (because they didn't vote for Obama). The tortured logic is really sad but typical. You can find the article at TPM called Racial Chasm (it is actually reccomended by Josh marshall)

Read the article and see how certain liberals will twist any numbers to prove that  white people are racist. While at the same time ignoring the fact that blacks are voting for Obama by more than 85% (Note: Clinton had always enjoyed tremendous support in the black community because of her civil rights record).


How do polls prove anything. You have never saw me use a poll to prove a point because they are completely unreliable (as have been shown numerous times in this election cycle).

If I were a candidate, ANY candidate I would be very leery of any polls.


by LORD FOUL on 04/08/2008 04:32:49 PM EST

Polls in this case are essentially useless, and plus I dont like how they (the polls and the media) keep focusing on Identity and racial issues - They are not being honest with us, and they are just not giving a clear picture on how the country really thinks and feels...in my opinion.

Ask around with your non Obama-supporting friends (if you guys have any). Say the words Obama and president in the same sentence and see their initial reaction - thats a 1000 times more useful than any statistical poll...

thanks

:)

by bobo1 on 04/08/2008 04:45:43 PM EST

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I don't think Hillary's racist, and that's not what it says up there at the top of the thread. I referenced her racial spin. Okay I'll admit the word "exposed" kinda maybe implies racism. Sorry for the exaggeration--that's not what I meant. I meant that her false claim is exposed. Its well known that she's pushing the narrative that white people in swing states won't vote for a black guy. I just talked to a Hillary supporter today who said the same thing. Okay, he's not an official surrogate, but this is the buzz. Is it wrong?

About polls, yes, it's healthy to be skeptical about polls. But the ones that are done scientifically are real, hard data. They are statistics and one should be careful in their interpretation, but dismissing them out of hand is no more prudent than overinterpreting them. In this case, I put them up because Hillary's camp made the claim that Barack enjoys less of the white vote and thus will be a weaker general election candidate. There's nothing wrong with that claim, because it is falsifiable. These data suggest--but do not prove--that her claim is flat out wrong. They also imply that the opposite may be true. More evidence may come to light which shows something different, but until then, you can't simply discard real data because you don't like polls. Are you suggesting we trade opinions ad nauseum until one of us is forced to change our minds on the basis of the other having a more forceful opinion?

by hazmat on 04/08/2008 07:02:46 PM EST

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