You are against dems because your love of free speech?

Bush loves free speech so much he has a "free speech zone".  Which is far from the area around him where you can only say pro-Bush things.

And we all remember the politicization of the FCC.  Their crusade against Howard Stern comes to mind.  Evidently no one told the FCC that Stern occasionaly made questionable comments on his low profile radio show, I forget where it boradcasted at the time, until he criticized Bush.  Then, in an amazing coincidence, the FCC found some things on the show they felt were worthy of concern.  Massive fines followed.

And doesn't firing federal prosecutors who are investigating Republicans count as a free speech issue?

What about detaining people indefinitely without letting speak to lawyers or anyone else?

What about that Australian guy they let out but made him swear to talk to no one about his detention?

But the oblique reference to LOCAL control (thought Ken was a federalist?) of the PUBLICLY OWNED airwaves and Ken turns up his nose and claims the moral high ground.  Nice.

Any other examples of Bush and his love of free speech, guys?

Damn, Ken will say anything to get that tax cut.

Viva la Tax Cut! 

by ProfRich on 05/11/2008 02:16:52 AM EST

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"If you re-read my first post in this thread, you'll realize that I was jokingly admitting that I was responsible for the push poll calls, not Barack Obama."

Yeah, I caught that first time around, got a laugh, and pretty much ignored that the rest of the discussion. If you're referring to "any calls out", that wasn't about polls, that was "Obama has not made a public declaration calling for."

"But back to Rush Limbaugh, here is exactly what he said..."

Yup! Wanting to spread chaos aimed at a particular group, disrupt and sabotage the process, and seeks wanton violence at the Democratic convention in Denver. Again, you make MY point. Thank you. He truly is despicable, isn't he?

Tell you what - put Rush in a "Free Speech" cage in the middle of nowhere, take away his fucking microphone, and I am very happy to let him bleat his hatred and nonsense all day long. Otay?

"When you liberals try to abridge the right of the opposition to voice their opinions, it makes me all the more certain that you have absolutely no business in power. For once, I'm not kidding."

Well, if you're not kidding, then it's time to jump off that high horse of indignation and utter hypocrisy and start accepting responsibility for the actions of those you champion. Voice opinions about the process? Want to say outrageous things? Fine and dandy, but Freedom of Speech does NOT carry with it a license to stir people into an angry mob, ready to cause violence. Flat out lying is not Free Speech, although the Right seems to think so.

Here's the difference: "Femenazis are all ugly women who can't get laid." Outrageous, sure, but only an ugly stick-up-her-ass feminist is going to have issues. No problem.

"Now, this is Michael J. Fox. He's got Parkinson's disease. And in this commercial, he is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He is moving all around and shaking. And it's purely an act." An example of pure, evil, a bald faced lie.
 
Then comes the crap which SHOULD result in him losing his license: "The dream end ... I mean, if people say what's your exit strategy, the dream end of this is that this keeps up to the convention and that we have a replay of Chicago 1968, with burning cars, protests, fires, literal riots, and all of that. That's the objective here. And there has been nothing that's happened on the battlefield for my vision of this to change."

When confronted, he reacts in his usual manner - lies about what he said and tries to sluff it off on someone else's plate: "But the fact is that the Democrat Party has members in it that have already said, "There will be riots," or something to that effect. Al Sharpton. "

Except, as is usual, Rush doesn't bother to give an exact quote, let alone a realistic description of what was actually said. In this case, on that bastion of left-wing thought, the O'Reilly Factor. I wouldn't want to be accused of an "out of context" posting, so I'll present the whole relevant exchange. Notice how O'Reilly is not satisfied with any of Al's answers and how O'Reilly badgers him trying to get him to say what Bill-O wants to hear:
 











Us realists keep trying to hammer the point home, even though the Righties have their hands over their ears, eyes shut, and making "la-la-la-la-I-can't-h ear-you-la-la-la" sounds:

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. They are NOT entitled to their own set of facts.

by MedfordTim on 05/11/2008 02:22:39 AM EST

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When you liberals try to abridge the right of the opposition to voice their opinions, it makes me all the more certain that you have absolutely no business in power. For once, I'm not kidding.

 

You know, you sure spend a lot time and energy worrying about free speech when the very people you defend rail at George Soros, Media Watch and other outlets as the root of all evil and have tried to get Olberman thrown off MSNBC, Daliy KOS banned and other "liberal" media otherwise restricted.

By the way...your conservative buds are trying to get Penthouse and Playboy pulled from the military PXs, BXs...when appeasing their Bible thumping crowd base your pals sell out the Constitution in a nanosecond.

So lets cut all the pretense Ken...all your really worried about is more tax cuts.

If shutting down ever liberal news and media outlet got you a little more money in you pocket, dollars to donuts you would forget you high minded defense of the Constitution and go for the cash.

by MRFred on 05/11/2008 02:36:31 AM EST

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