We all know about gender and race and age discrimination but Edwards fell prey to an untalked about discrimination.

Southerner discrimination.  I am a southerner so it doesn't work with me but I heard 100s of bright well meaning pundits and reporters write off Edwards as a serious candidate because he was a southerner.  They didn't say that but it was clear to me.  His accent, his charm, his genteel nature.  They had an instinctive dislike for it.  I love the Turks but they have always been brutal to the South (especially Jill and Cenk).

It was fascinating to watch Cenk and others all the sudden realize how right Edwards was about so much right before he dropped out because pundits and media refused to take him seriously.  I believe this was because they wrote him off as some dumbass cracker hillbilly.  Then the more they followed things the more they realized they had screwed up.

I say all the time if Einstein had been form Mississippi you would never have heard of the Theory of Relativity.  He would have come up with it but no one would have taken him seriously.  Which is just ignorant.  William Faulkner was from Mississippi.  Tennessee Williams was a southerner. Harper Lee.  Eisenhower and Nimitz.  I could do this all day. 

by ProfRich on 05/14/2008 11:36:10 PM EST

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Go back to watching Nascar in your trailer and listening to country music. While you're at it, bash some gays and tell some racist jokes on the way to church.

;)

by Tom Hanc on 05/15/2008 12:54:24 AM EST

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You totally get southerners.  I take it all back.

Unless you're gay, then get ready to feel the embossed cross on my Dale Sr. signed lug wrench upside your latte sipping ass while you bleed to death between the double wides to the tinny sound of Hank, Sr.

Educated piece of shit. 

by ProfRich on 05/15/2008 01:01:36 AM EST

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Any opinion about the South that people have is well-earned.

Even your so-called Southern Heroes know how dumb that region is and they make fun of it themselves.

Its a willing desire to not evolve and learn and become better people.

If the South is so smart why cant they get over the loss in the Civil War?

Blogger Please...

by calturner on 05/15/2008 08:51:34 AM EST

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For what it's worth, ProfRich, in my opinion is 100% right 0% wrong on this one.

by detroiter on 05/15/2008 05:25:11 PM EST

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If you are joking, then go ahead and throw away this response as you usually do...

If you're not joking, then this will be one of the few times I agree with you 100%...

There is definitely a "southern bias" that people from the south face in the national political scene...

Carry On!!!

:)

by bobo1 on 05/15/2008 06:40:21 PM EST

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I am very serious about this.  Just because we see things differently on a lot of things doesn't me we don't see eye to eye on anything.  Hell, Ken and I agree on college football!!

by ProfRich on 05/15/2008 06:52:46 PM EST

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Do you think that this bias is entirely unfounded, or that there are kernels (small and or large depending on the specific claim) of truth there?


by Tom Hanc on 05/15/2008 08:21:18 PM EST

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Step 1) Take everything I said about Southerners and translate it into black people. 

Step 2) Now take all the stereotypes we have thrown around about southerners and translate them into thier black counterpart

Step 3) Ask your question about black people 

How many times have you heard some white guy say, "I know its a stereotype but its true about black people (being criminals/not having jobs/having babies out of wedlock/liking fried chicken/having various grotesque physical features)?  Did you feel those people were making a compelling argument?

Look, the point is are some Southerners idiots?  Do some love Nascar and drink too much beer and have a poor understanding of America, its governmental system and ideals?  Do some wear wifebeaters and have mullets and beat their wives?  Sure.  Does John Edwards? Does he deserve to be painted with that brush?  That is how bigotry works.   

by ProfRich on 05/15/2008 10:44:46 PM EST

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But pragmatically speaking, it's damn near impossible to treat each and every person on earth as an individual 100% of the time.  There are over 6 billion reasons why it's not practical.

Ideally though, yes, that's what we'd always do.

by Tom Hanc on 05/16/2008 11:50:12 PM EST

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And I don't think you are a bigot at all.  Just making a point.

I think there are bigotries we shine a white hot spotlight on and they whither and weaken (black) and some we acknowledge and they slip in the shadows but remain fairly strong (women, Mexicans) and those we completely ignore and those remain the same or even grow in power (Southerners in this case) 

by ProfRich on 05/17/2008 12:00:37 AM EST

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