Hillary's "stoking the flames of racism" is the problem, not poor Whites. | 18 comments (18 topical, 0 hidden)
What has Obama done for the Black community??? (none / 0)
Are you serious?  If you are not black, then you are posing this question to play the race card against Obama...you are saying that CLINTON cares more about blacks than OBAMA, and you're saying OBAMA played the race card???  If you don't live in a black community, then don't pretend that Obama hasn't done anything for them.  White people want to think that the Clintons are this saviour to black people because they actually listened somewhat to the black community, but WAKE UP MCFLY!  That's their JOB!  The Clintons looked really good to the black community because they were not the typical "whites only" type of president.  Fact is, the American public knows that whites have not paid attention to women or minorities until they basically protest in the streets.  Both Hillary and Barack know more about this struggle than John McCain, but to question if Obama has done anything to help blacks during this time of struggle...you don't understand that he is progressing the black movement by existing right now.  He is making sure that "racist" white America knows that blacks are good enough to be in office.  He could not do anything more for the black community.  To be an ambassador that crosses racial lines that have not been crossed since the jim crow laws were repealed is more than any black person could do as one man.
Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 05/08/2008 10:46:25 AM EST

Reality bites (none / 0)
So does distortion. I never said that Clinton cared more for Blacks than Obama. and yes I grew up in a black community. Once again from a legislative stand point what has Obama done for the black community compared to Clinton (this is not a trick question).

So what you are really saying is that just by being black he is progressing the "black movement" (what about his white half).

I guess we can see who is really the racist here. Since you won't answer the Legislative question I got another. Do you consider Clarence Thomas an ambassador who is making sure that white (racist) america knows that blacks are good enough to be justices? I mean he is black isn't he.

Final question, blacks make up what percentage of the voters? Answer 13% and we wonder why we lose elections.

by LORD FOUL on 05/08/2008 01:55:48 PM EST

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Legislation??? (none / 0)
Where's Hillary's legislation?  If you're going to say I need to produce the legislation for Obama, then you need to show me Hillary's legislation. 

As far as Clarence Thomas goes...it would be different if he were the FIRST black supreme court justice, but he wasn't, he was the second after Thoroughgood Marshall.  If you want to see Thomas as an ambassador, he was a terrible one.  That would be the major difference, he made black people look bad by example, because he was in a position in which he gets direct scrutiny because of his race.  It's unfair, but blacks basically have to be on their best behavior...look at colin powell...He got the label of being "well spoken".  this is a direct cause of him being an "ambassador" for the black community.  If he wasn't "well spoken", the media would have said something along the lines of,"general gives orders in ebonics" or something ridiculous like that.  Unfortunately Clarence Thomas WAS a representative of the black community to "racist whites" but he was not fit for this position, thus he failed...if you are calling ME racist because of my observations, then you are definitely barking up the wrong tree...i am in an interracial relationship, and the fact that I can talk about race does not make me racist.

by chrisandyasemin on 05/08/2008 03:55:30 PM EST

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Way to go (none / 0)
An answer without really answering. How quaint

You cannot be judgemental towards clinton if you don't know her civil rights record, her affermative action record or her legislative record. Your answer shows me what I already knew about Obama's record (    &n bsp;     ;    &n bsp;     ; ) zilch

Just like his now famous race speech. Did he give that speech during the Jenna 6 crisis? How about the duke lacross rape case? Nope. It came as a result of his fear that his Presidential aspirations were in trouble. (what a guy!!!)


You admit that just because Clarence Thomas is black doesn't mean he is a good ambassador. Why is it assumed (simply because of his color) that Obama is any different. (He has liberal views and Thomas conservative views?)


I could care less that you were in an interracial relationship, so was I, So what? There is no difference (white or black) if you are simply voting for a candidate simply based on the color of their skin.

You stated and I quote: you don't understand that he is progressing the black movement by existing right now.  He is making sure that "racist" white America knows that blacks are good enough to be in office.  He could not do anything more for the black community.

So blacks should vote for Obama simply because he is black. Doesn't matter what he has or hasn't done. Nor does it matter what hillary has or hasn't done. Let me ask you, will it help blacks if he loses? Would you feel the same way about Colin Powell?

What was that that MLK said about judging somebody simply based on the color of their skin. I thought so!


by LORD FOUL on 05/08/2008 04:55:04 PM EST

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I never said "Black people should... (none / 0)
YOU SAID THAT!!!  Never once did I say that.  If you saw in my other post, I said that blacks are voting for Obama because of the issues.  I talked to a white person today who said they are voting for obama because he's black.  I don't agree with that, but is that person racist?  you're saying I Never answered the question, when you were the one who challenged obama's record without proof of "Billary's" legislature.  If you want to say that Hillary made a bunch of legislation specifically aimed to help blacks, and no one else (not bill), then where is it at...you're just misconstruing my words now.  Obama is a lot different from Clarence Thomas.  If you can't see that, then YOU haven't been paying attention.

by chrisandyasemin on 05/08/2008 10:57:43 PM EST

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Okay I get it (none / 0)
Blacks are voting 95% for Obama on the issues not on race because blacks apparently as a group are more informed than White people.

Whites on the other hand are voting for Clinton 60% of the time because white people are not nearly as informed and are just racist.

Any "informed" person like 95% of the black community would of course be compelled to vote for Obama.

I am glad to see that the black community has advanced so for. In 1988 I worked in a place that the majority of the employees happened to be black, on election day everyone of the black employees talked about how they all had to "go vote for Jesse", and made comments like "gotta vote for the Brother" and other statements that if made by white people about a white would be construed as racist.

Not that I took offence as I understood the pride blacks must have felt to see a black man mounting a serious run for the nomination. Let's remember Jesse did win 11 States and got over 6 million votes.  Of course because I have just pointed that fact out means I have just played the race card and will now be labeled a racist.

Well it's good to know that when my guy Edwards dropped out and I didn't IMMEDIATLY throw my support to Obama it was only because I'm really a racist, and the 95% of blacks who vote for Obama are just well informed.

by Hubble on 05/10/2008 09:29:38 AM EST

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Hey Buddy (none / 0)
Where ya been, glad to see ya.

You are such a racist, welcome to the club!

Our friends can't seem to figure out that the MSM has selected our candidate for us.

by LORD FOUL on 05/10/2008 12:02:39 PM EST

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Hillary called her voters uneducated (none / 0)
it wasn't me...if you want to say they are more informed, that's you and hillary's argument...what about al sharpton?   did he win anything?

by chrisandyasemin on 05/10/2008 08:39:26 PM EST

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Hillary's "stoking the flames of racism" is the problem, not poor Whites. | 18 comments (18 topical, 0 hidden)