I don't mean u or even Hillary supporters, Lord Foul. I mean God damn the idea that we should always take care to support only those issues or nominate only those candidates who are "ok" by the misinformed, underinformed, brain-dead or just plain prejudiced. And Democrats have been painfully bad at judging who will be ok by those folks, anyway. We should really not factor "electability" into our voting decisions because we suck at it. Just vote for whoever the fuck you want to.

By the way, one of your arguments above was "Clinton won nearly 50% of Dem votes, rubbing your so-called crushing victory in thier face is not wise. Calling them racists is not wise. Telling them they are not part of the new party and to get out is unwise. pretending his past is irrelevent is unwise."

Of course, Obama won more than 50% of Dem voters, but rubbing Hillary's "victories" in their faces apparently is wise? Calling them elitists, sexist and "16 year old school girls with a crush" is wise?


Whatever, I will let all of you terrified little children remain terrified of the big bad Republican attack machine. Go and cower in the corner hoping we go along with what they want instead of what we want.

How about voting for what you believe in and for whomever you believe would do the best job?

At any rate, you had a very long answer and only one sentence was relevant to the questions I had posed above.

"If they choose Obama fine. I will support him but many won't."

Okay. That's really all that's relevant now. If you want to make your pitch to superdelegates to ignore the will of the people as well as the established rules, that is fine.  The rest of us aren't superdelegates and we should focus on McCain and the Republicans running for Congress. I've already wasted too much time on arguments I just said we should ignore until and unless they become relevant.

by Weapon X on 05/11/2008 04:54:34 PM EST

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Electability: is really important. Do you like losing? How did you feel about Nadar supporters in 2000? I like Gravel (I think he's hysterical) I would not vote for him as President.

What did you call GWB when he claimed a mandate with 51% of the vote? What happens when you brag about "crushing" victories that you lost? What was factually acurate about that article? If Obama is the nominee he will need the other half of the Dem party. You can't seem to read and comprehend, the article claims crushing victories that never happened and correcting the facts is BAD? Did I call any one an elitist in this article? or sexist?

Yes I compared the article to a crush (read the article, consider the true facts, you will find that I was actually being polite)


You need to read the rules. The superdelegates were created for the express purpose of over-ruling the delegate count (in the event that the magic number was not reached). Also remember the delegate count is not necessarliy the "will of the people", Caucuses only represent a small (far left) minority of a states voters. Weighted districts (rewarding certain districts with extradelegates) is also not representative of the people.

I wonder how opposed you would be to MI & FLA, if the were NC & SC instead.

by LORD FOUL on 05/13/2008 04:55:24 PM EST

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Count 'em. Won't make a shits bit of difference.

by ProfRich on 05/13/2008 06:23:18 PM EST

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