Barack Obama and Public Money. | 46 comments (46 topical, 0 hidden)
I understand that, bias... (none / 0)
But what I also understand is that he lied. OPENLY and without reservation. And the Obama supporters are lapping up his lies willingly and without reservation... So please spare me the lines about "changing the system" and "cleaning up politics" because your guy is evolving into yet another example of what is wrong with our politicians: Not sticking with what they say!! Thanks :)

by bobo1 on 06/20/2008 05:58:28 PM EST

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What exactly did he lie about? (none / 1)
If I promise to do X, and circumstances change drastically such that the conditions under which I promised X no longer hold, am I a "liar" when I change my position on X?

Suggesting that I am is itself dishonest.  It ignores context and ignores the application of reason to changes in reality.

Sometimes you pretend not to be a troll.  Kurt Vonnegut once said that we tend to become what we pretend to be.  So I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here:

Given everything that 8 years of a neoconservative Republican executive has given us, and given that you CLAIM to be against these and find that the country has gone down the proverbial shitter in the interim, do you really want 4 MORE years of Bushesque administration of our country?  You REALLY find yourself unable to vote for the candidate closer to your own agenda?

by jarett on 06/22/2008 03:46:35 AM EST

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Ken is the liar (none / 0)

According to Ken anyway.

Ken defines a lie as asserting a statement that is not agreed upon by all (yeah, he really did in one of his most pathetic attempts to "defeat" me.  It was awesome.)

So when Ken calls Obama a liar here and he knows this is a heavily disputed statement, by his own definition, he is a liar.

Right, Ken? 

by ProfRich on 06/22/2008 09:57:06 AM EST

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Barack Obama and Public Money. | 46 comments (46 topical, 0 hidden)