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oh bobo (none / 0)

When will you get over this tired argument?  I am still just as enthusiastic about Obama myself and I'm sure many others are too.  I have a lot of respect for Obama and I don't presume to know as much as he does about politics and constitutional law.  I never had any illusion that he was a lefty liberal.  Anyone who does hasn't really paid attention to his stance on the issues. And it isn't simply the left that is supporting him, as the polls clearly show. 

Exactly what issues has Obama been on the far left on?  Certainly not the environment.  Not health care. 

And what makes you immune from a "netroots person" label?  After all, you do seem to pop up every time there is an Obama post here you can jump on.  Is it that you are paid by McCain's campaign to post here?

 

by desertpear on 06/25/2008 08:56:54 PM EST

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Desert Pear - you're so funny... (none / 0)
John McCain, by accepting public financing, couldn't afford my exceptional services. I'm saying things that a lot of people beyond the blogosphere are thinking. Obama is a Lefty by default simply because most of the people here adore him. His stances are very leftist - "healthcare for all?" - no drilling for oil? - raising taxes on the rich? Gun Control? Really, how much further to the left could he be? Its only those of you "netroots" people who I lovingly call "Obamabots" who think he's a centrist - those of us not totally in love with the idea of him see him as the lefty he is. I just think its funny to see the Obamabots whine and complain about him moving to the right when most people see it as running away from the loony left! Thanks for your comments! :)

by bobo1 on 06/25/2008 09:40:46 PM EST

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so (none / 0)

 

You will vote for McCain then?  I mean really, what is the choice?  Obama could be a serial killer and I'd still probably support him over McCain.  At this point, isn't the issue sort of moot since we can only choose between these two?

The whole drilling thing is a scam.  Obama wants to close the "Enron Loophole."  From what I have read, I would say his stance on drilling is pragmatic.

In the end, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, since you seem far more conservative than I.  I do see some of the fanaticism you speak of on DailyKos, but not on this forum.  I consider myself a pretty reasonable person willing to compromise on many issues.  Not capitulate, but compromise.   Find a common ground, you know? 

 


by desertpear on 06/25/2008 09:53:12 PM EST

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There is another choice... (none / 0)
I choose not to vote for president this time around - neither of these candidates are worthy of something so valuable as my vote. Yeah, a lot of kids will vote for the first time yadda yadda - but I think a lot of people will be amazed to see the number of people who choose NOT to vote (of those who normally would) this time around - on both sides of the spectrum. I don't know if there are polls to measure that sort of thing, but many people I know on both sides simply choose not to vote because of their dissatisfaction. The "drilling thing" is not a sham - its the typical Liberal answer when it comes to oil - don't do anything to help, make the people suffer and maybe they'll come around to buy into this "global crisis" bullshit. Even if the technology came out tomorrow that would rid us of oil dependence - it would still take us 50 years to get off of it. We need to drill on our own turf - what would it hurt? Some Caribou? Some spotted owls? BFD!!! Thanks again for your comments!

by bobo1 on 06/25/2008 10:14:59 PM EST

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Thats nice but, (none / 0)

Youre a scumbag traitor to this country.

Pick a side, not voting is childishness defined.

Dissent is America, Apathy is treasonous.

by calturner on 06/25/2008 10:53:49 PM EST

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Im the scumbag? (none / 0)
Not voting is also my right as a citizen.

I have voted since before you were born most likely.

If there are candidates that are worthy of my vote, then I shall vote for them.

There arent any Presidential Candidates worthy of my vote this time around.

if you work or volunteer for Obama as you say you do, I suggest that maybe they give you some training as to how to sway independent or non koolaid drinking voters. Calling them scumbags and traitors is not gonna do the trick.

I guess dissent isnt acceptable to you.

Take a cue from your candidate - start running toward the center/right quick if you want any chance of persuading voters.&nbs p;

Thats the bottom line...

:)

by bobo1 on 06/26/2008 01:14:39 AM EST

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Its your right not to vote (none / 0)
But its my right to say your opinion now means nothing, because you arent voting.

by calturner on 06/26/2008 04:00:33 PM EST

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Bobo is a responsible non-voter (none / 0)
If Bobo doesn't want to vote, let him not vote.  We should be so lucky that all people as misinformed as he is police themselves and abstain from the process.  Few people have that admirable level of restraint, to say, "I don't know nearly enough about this election to participate in it.  In the interest of my fellow citizens, I better not vote."   Besides, would his opinion mean anything to you even if he WERE voting?

by OneHitKill on 06/26/2008 10:00:05 PM EST

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good luck (none / 0)
Good luck waiting for your perfect candidate.  The drilling decision should be decided on science, not politics.  I hardly think $4/gallon gas is a crisis.  It's provided the best incentive in 30 years for Americans to stop buying wasteful SUVs and for research into REAL ALTERNATIVES to our dependency on oil.  If you are following the news, you would understand that this is actually happening RIGHT NOW.  Auto makers are scrambling to design small, fuel-efficient vehicles to their customers and are backing off of releasing gas guzzling models.  University research teams and entrepeneurs are DAILY coming up with great new ideas for alternative energy.  Your understanding of the scientific arguments against drilling is that of a third grader's (as evidenced by your focus on two charismatic species), and I don't have the time to educate a person who doesn't give a fuck about the planet that provides us with conditions suitable for life itself.  Now that I see that you don't even have the spine to vote, I doubt I will bother responding to your posts again.  We are just too different to find common ground I guess.  That's too bad. 

by desertpear on 06/26/2008 04:10:22 PM EST

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Whew!!!!! (none / 0)

Luckily for us the McCain campaign is now openly and publicly rooting for the terrorists.  That should counterbalance the obvious fact that everyone except the TYT posters completely despises Barak Obama.

Speaking of, why aren't you incensed that McCain's campaign is now pro-terrorist?

Ken?

Anytroll? 

by ProfRich on 06/25/2008 10:38:46 PM EST

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sure Bobo whatever you say (none / 0)

I volunteer for Obama but I made sure that they paid party officials knew I was irritated about FISA but still went out canvassing.

I feel free to criticize Obama every chance I get--because I support him!

I dont blindly follow anyone. 

The late comers on the Obama Train need to be reminded frequently--I was a Dodd man before he dropped out, and briefly with the Clintons, but I saw the writing on the wall and went Obama after my state of VA voted that way. Im a homer sometimes.

by calturner on 06/25/2008 10:51:32 PM EST

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