Victory for the Constitution! | 119 comments (119 topical, 0 hidden)
wrong! (none / 0)
I'm glad you're on the right side of the issue, but this statement is blatantly false. 

"DC was too strict, but then again both DC and NYC crime went down with strict gun control laws. "

http://www.youtube.com/watc h?v=qyoLuTjguJA

http://www.journals.uchicag o.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/46798 8

"Using cross-sectional time-series data for U.S. counties from 1977 to 1992, we find that allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons deters violent crimes, without increasing accidental deaths. If those states without right-to-carry concealed gun provisions had adopted them in 1992, county- and state-level data indicate that approximately 1,500 murders would have been avoided yearly. Similarly, we predict that rapes would have declined by over 4,000, robbery by over 11,000, and aggravated assaults by over 60,000. We also find criminals substituting into property crimes involving stealth, where the probability of contact between the criminal and the victim is minimal. Further, higher arrest and conviction rates consistently reduce crime. The estimated annual gain from all remaining states adopting these laws was at least $5.74 billion in 1992. The annual social benefit from an additional concealed handgun permit is as high as $5,000."

by alphasigmookie on 06/26/2008 06:50:11 PM EST

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I'll give you DC (none / 0)
I didn't do enough research, was rushing that post.  There are plenty of numbers out there that show gun control does reduce crime- look at Europe - so it probably depends on a combination of many factors. 

I believe that gun accountability is better than gun control.  Your gun kills someone and you don't report it stolen (i.e. you aren't being a responsible gun owner by keeping track of where your guns are) you are held accountable.

Basically, I have no problem at all with responsible gun owners, but people need to be just that, responsible.

by richardshort2001 on 06/27/2008 12:09:22 AM EST

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Car accountability? (none / 0)
Are you also for car accountability?  If someone steals your car and kills someone with it should you be charged with a felony as well?

As for europe you can't attribute that to gun control alone, there are far too many cultural differences.  My best guess is that frankly they're just tired of killing eachother after 2000 odd years of doing so every chance they got. 

by alphasigmookie on 06/27/2008 05:02:36 AM EST

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Europe misconception (none / 0)

You do understand that the Euros currently not killing each other are not the same ones who were killing each other 2000 years ago, right?

And you get that the people over here are just as much descended from the people over there as the people over there are, right?

So your theory is a like of violence in our historical past (which is a shared past with Europe) is the reason for the high murder rate in the U.S. and the lack of gun control is irrelevant? 

 

by ProfRich on 06/27/2008 07:56:28 AM EST

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