Your point first point is that the avaliablity of guns causes people to die and that gun control can decrease the number of innocent people who are killed.

Your second argument is equally retarded of course.  The market cap of the two largest publicly traded firearms manufacturers in the US...Smith and Wesson and Ruger is less than $400 million!  They have virtually no lobbying power at all!  Gas and Car companies run into the hundreds of Billions!  Even then a large portion of their revenues come from sales to governments and police forces. 

The NRA on the other hand has an annual budget of ~$200 million all paid for by the over 4 million individual tax payers that rely on it to protect their constitutionally guaranteed right.  No Rich, the the power of the gun lobby does not come from wealthy business interests, it comes from millions of honest, hard working Americans who only want their country to live up to its promises. 

by alphasigmookie on 06/27/2008 03:45:23 PM EST

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That was Fred's point.  I just riffed off it.

As for the second part, if you really don't think the gun mfrs aren't behind the whole NRA movement, at least in part, I think you are woefully naive. 

But they can't be because the car and oil industry is much bigger?  Are you suggesting the car and oil industries aren't fucking us?  I would easily believe they are fucking us 100 times more than the gun folks are.

Although you could be arguing th gun people are in direct competition with the car and oil people but I really don't get that. 

by ProfRich on 06/27/2008 05:00:15 PM EST

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