Bush baiting Russia into a conflict? | 22 comments (22 topical, 0 hidden)
It is true (none / 0)

That georgia was egged on by the US support for their Nato application plus the "pimp-my-army"-pr ogram, and also that they made a terrible mistake in shooting at russian...peace keepers??..in South Ossetia. I think its also true that the Russians were just waiting for this to happen so they could milk the situation dry. Nobody puts that ammount of forces in another country at a days notice unless they were already poised to do so.

Bottom line. Saakashvili, trying to outmaneuver a strategically brilliant x-KGB intelligence officer, learned how they play in the big league.

The whole "IT ABOUT OIL" spiel is too simple. Should be: "Its also about oil, and russian patriotism (look our army can win, forget tjetjenia), about giving the finger to the western world (EU/US) and telling them to back off.

by whoosh on 08/14/2008 07:08:30 AM EST

Mostly agree, except (none / 0)
I'm not certain Saakashvili got outmaneuvered, could be, but at this point it's not certain yet.
Depending on what the Bush administration will do, I see that Republicans are keeping up with demonizing Russia, so if the US is actually stupid enough to do something, it means Saakashvili knew what the US was going/promised to do.
Everytime I've seen Saakashvili, he's playing the media game very well: speaking in English, having EU flags in the background, emphasizing that there's no martial law, that the press isn't censored, democracy is well in Georgia, ....

let's see what happens next

on a side note, talking about Tsjetsjenia: saw a piece about the big convoy that has encircled Gori now, they had been driving for 4 days, coming from... Tsjetsjenia. Moral booster for those soldiers?

by callisto on 08/14/2008 10:50:00 AM EST

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he is a little (none / 0)

Slick.

Watched him comment on McCain's "We are all Georgian" slogan. He was pretty much challenging McCain to put some boots on the ground, which did strike me as odd. Who's the President in the U.S. anyways?

I do think that there should be some show of force but that the soldiers should be wearing blue hats...i.e. U.N. Peace keepers. If they are going back to the way things were we are talking russian "peace keepers".   

by whoosh on 08/14/2008 02:29:09 PM EST

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Just in case you were wondering (none / 1)

McCain's reaction to the Georgia Crisis might be the most dramatic, inappropriate and pathetic example ever of a candidate for president acting like he's already president.

Where the fuck does he get off telling the current commander-in-chief where and how to deploy the military in a war zone!

Its really outrageous.  Too bad we don't have a media.

by ProfRich on 08/14/2008 03:31:11 PM EST

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I felt the same way (none / 0)
It made me cringe. 

by desertpear on 08/14/2008 04:36:30 PM EST

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euh maybe we're missing the obvious (none / 0)
maybe the election has already been decided in favor of McCain? or let's put it this way: has anyone done shit to fix all those "broken" voting machines

by callisto on 08/14/2008 07:04:58 PM EST

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oh gods (none / 0)
That is always my repressed nightmare!

by desertpear on 08/14/2008 09:37:31 PM EST

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This made me feel better (none / 0)

From fivethrityeight.com

This is a pretty natural fear to have after 2000. However, if there is actually a recount, or some other kind of rules dispute around the election, it is more likely to be resolved in the Democrats' favor. That is because, of the 15 most important states according to our Tipping Point metric, the Secretary of State is a Democrat in 11 of them, and the governor is a Democrat in 12 of them. The tally follows below the jump.

<pre>State SOS Governor
Ohio Democrat Democrat
Michigan Republican Democrat
Virginia Democrat Democrat
Iowa Democrat Democrat
New Mexico Democrat Democrat
New Hampshire Democrat Democrat
Florida Republican Republican
Pennsylvania Democrat Democrat
Nevada Democrat Republican
Indiana Republican Republican
Montana Republican Democrat
Oregon Democrat Democrat
New Jersey Democrat Democrat
Wisconsin Democrat Democrat</pre>

by ProfRich on 08/14/2008 11:44:33 PM EST

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i'm surpised king george... (none / 0)
realized there was a whole country whith the same name, or that he didn't think it was named after him or his father. i may have misunderestimated him

by holy noize on 08/15/2008 12:12:32 AM EST

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You're forgetting the second part of 2000 (none / 0)
it wasn't only Harris, it was also the Dems cringing when the Repugs started to call them the worst names and accusing them of misdoings

I'm not that hopefull that these Dems would have the backbone to stand up against Repug lies when they start screaming foul and fraude, which will undoubtely be echoed by the media

by callisto on 08/15/2008 06:38:09 AM EST

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Bush baiting Russia into a conflict? | 22 comments (22 topical, 0 hidden)