A Giant Threat to the Internet and TYT | 55 comments (55 topical, 0 hidden)
Did you actually read my blog... (none / 0)

before you posted that condescending free market drivel? Obviously not.

The limits for 768kbps service is 5GB of data, for the 10Mbps service a 40GB cap

There will no longer be unlimited access, period.Did the part about the cable companies escape you?

By the way the reason we are not still using dial up is that 56kps speed limit due to the signal clipping used on voice lines.

If we can mandate high definition television on a whim of the FCC then  we can set standards on what can be called broadband and the level of service. Then the free market can knock itself out providing that service at the lowest cost.


 

 



by MRFred on 08/24/2008 08:02:55 PM EST

Let me take a guess... (none / 0)
... I would say: no, he didn't read it, did you really expect him to? he scans for keywords and then he pasts a standard answer

or he might not know what 5GB is :) if you watch any video online, you'll blow past it right away

by callisto on 08/24/2008 08:09:52 PM EST

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Not MrFred and not on topic. (none / 0)
I hate toll roads where the money is being misused.

I am fine with toll roads to pay off the bonds and debt incurred to build the damn road.

I am fine with on-going base line tolls for future infrastructure improvements to that specific road way.

I tend to read MrFred posts. They are usually nice with bolding, bullet points and sometimes even pictures. It is almost as if he was making them easy enough for the moderately illiterate to read.

by jazzchic on 08/24/2008 09:52:29 PM EST

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Oh goody (none / 0)

 

A huge exaggeration since we are only talking a very very small amount of roadway you linked. No matter, in the big picture some of you fellow citizens aren't to happy with the privatization...seem they rightfully calling it  Tolling Roads we’ve already paid for =New Double Tax!!!

Back to the subject at hand:

The difference is build the toll roads and collect the tolls

build segments 5 and 6 of its SH-130 toll road between San Antonio and Austin, Texas in the United States in which it will invest $1.36 billion.

and in the case of the cable / Baby Bells case collect the  tolls and let someone else, perhaps, build the toll roads.  

Would you pay double tolls for a road that might get built?

On second thought, if it was a private company...maybe you would.

Hows that workin' for ya?

by MRFred on 08/25/2008 09:58:51 AM EST

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As we used to say in the Navy (none / 0)

 Your as full of shit as a Christmas Turkey.

Common Ken, you cant believe this Cato fairy tale after its failed time and time again:

 

What scares the hell out of socialists is that this model of infrastructure privatization could take over the entire country. Next thing you know, some of our social security "investment" could be directed to the market, and everyone could become a millionaire.

 

<Children playing in "privately funded sewage system" after tropical storm

 

 

I'll need to find a socialist and ask him/her.  But In the meantime

  • I'll ask the Enron millionaires how deregulated electricity worked...ooops..Im sorry..they're in jail.
  • Ill ask the mortgage industry...no wait they are getting bailed out with federal funds...jail to follow.
  • I'll ask the Savings and Loan...no wait...they have already been to jail..except for John McCain

 McCains Sad Tale:

 

In 1982, during McCain's first run for the House, Keating held a fund-raiser for him, collecting more than $11,000 from 40 employees of American Continental Corp. McCain would spend more than $550,000 to win the primary and the general election.
In 1983, as McCain contemplated his House re-election, Keating hosted a $1,000-a-plate dinner for him, even though McCain had no serious competition. When McCain pushed for the Senate in 1986, Keating was there with more than $50,000.

By 1987, McCain had received about $112,000 in political contributions from Keating and his associates.

McCain also had carried a little water for Keating in Washington. While in the House, McCain, along with a majority of representatives, co-sponsored a resolution to delay new regulations designed to curb risky investments by thrifts such as Lincoln.

He was given a wrap on the knuckles by the Republican controlled Senate at the time. I guess milking the POW thing, "Ive already been in jail" worked.

So in closing, yeah..it works fine..for some people, for the 99.9% of the public not so much

 

by MRFred on 08/25/2008 10:45:36 AM EST

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Cato fairy tale (none / 0)
you so know Kenny is going "my cat is in which fairy tale now?"

:)

by callisto on 08/25/2008 10:57:48 AM EST

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Less on topic than jazzchic was... (none / 0)
>I hate toll roads where the money is being misused.

I confess my dyslexic, sleep-deprived brain read her first line as "I hate troll toads", and after seeing that it was a reply to KenTX, it seemed only natural.  I'd say I read 50% of MrFred's original post and scanned the rest, In fact, I chose to read it partly out of surprise that it wasn't title "A SuperBowl-Champion Giant Threat...". 

As a more casual blogger than, I scan for content / facts which support the claim and delve deeper into points which don't ring true.  And one thing I almost always do is skip Ken's comments, based on the sheer quantity of deceptions his quoted facts belie.  Which he should realize is counter-productive to his mission of subverting those of us who want to examine both sides of an issue.  I don't want to ignore the other side, but I won't entertain his based on past posts.

I give MrFred a 9 out of 10 for the layout and content of the original post.  That can't be taken away from him, even if he does choose to support the Forrest Gump of football teams that stumbles its way into a championship.

by eallgaier on 08/25/2008 11:49:20 AM EST

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Aaugh! (none / 0)

Forrest Gump or not...they won. Case Closed.

by MRFred on 08/25/2008 12:04:26 PM EST

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"Stick to your own area of expertise" (none / 0)
No.  Fred, your posts are well-written.  And Ken DOES read them, I guarantee it.

by OneHitKill on 08/24/2008 11:10:41 PM EST

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Lazy Ken (none / 0)
you're so fucked up man, in your mind not reading his posts, but still answering them makes you smart, in other people's mind it makes you at least intellectually dishonest, more like troll and basically makes your comments irrelevant

by callisto on 08/25/2008 05:23:47 AM EST

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Thanks for proving my point....Mr ADHD (none / 0)

Its not my fault you attention span eliminates 90% of your word count.

Q: Did you actually read my blog ( singular)... before you posted that condescending free market drivel? Obviously not.

A: No Fred, I don't read all of your posts.

And if you did read the blog you would not have made a gaffe like this:

 The free market provides and government takes away. I guarantee that if you have enough money, you can have all the volume, features, perks, bells and whistles that you want.

Not likely. Regardless of how much money you have you'll be paying per byte access charges. I guarantee you that you'll be the first one to bitch when your Blackberry air time charge triples and your home broadband goes from 59.00 per month to over 300.00 just to down load TYT podcasts.

Tell me something Mr Free Market, I can't think of a business, in this case a monopoly, that with the blessing of federal regulators manipulates supply to charge higher prices so it will not have to invest in new infrastructure and maximize profit from old, already amortized and depreciated equipment ...no...wait..I'm wrong...the OIL BUSINESS.

That explains a lot. Its a business model you seem to like.

  • Your willing to give huge tax cuts to corporations with no assurance any of it will generate one new job but investing in a public infrastructure that will generate millions of new jobs and benefit business and private citizen alike at less cost is bad?
  • Your willing to fall behind world competition ( we 24th now and falling, we were 17th when Bush made the proposal) in some misguided homage to a nonexistant "free market" in broadband.
  • Your willing to ship millions new jobs overseas to save a few tax cuts?

 

Sorry. You go right ahead and pay through the nose for restricted broadband service and tell us how thats workin' for ya.

All the providers I use Verison, Brighthouse and Wired Ocean are considering or planing a simular rate plan.

 PS: I have a Sunpass, I love the service...so bite me.

 

by MRFred on 08/25/2008 09:29:52 AM EST

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Health Care? (none / 0)
If you are young, healthy and loaded, insurance companies compete for you. If you are old, ill and poor... Not so much.

by Hexer78 on 08/25/2008 11:01:31 AM EST

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Dont fall for the bait and switch... (none / 0)

 He's losing the argument so he changes the subject...

Normal Logic: If A=B and B=C Then A=C

Ken TX Logic: If A=B and C=X Then A = privatization

McCain Logic:  If A=B and B=C Then " What time is MacGyver on Nickelodeon ?"

by MRFred on 08/25/2008 11:11:33 AM EST

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so true (none / 0)
people should nail Kenny on the bait and switch more, he only does it 90% of the time

by callisto on 08/25/2008 11:24:53 AM EST

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In my country... (none / 0)
Money also talks. What's your point?

by Hexer78 on 08/25/2008 11:24:06 AM EST

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Oh Really? (none / 0)

 

The job of government is to make sure there is no monopoly. We need to ensure the creation of as many broadband providers as possible, and then there is absolutely nothing to worry about.

 

Then why did the Repugs roll over to Telco lobbyists in 1996 and  create the mess we have now? I'm all for competition...we don't have it..and Republicans are responsible.

 

I know it's a lot of words. Let me summarize for you. Republicans screwed the pooch , took the lobbing money and created a mess that ultimately resulted in the collapse of the Internet boom . That's the "phoney" economy you were so pissed about. In short..crudely put...you fucked yourself.
 
Regulation isn't bad per se...meaning that you set technical standards for what services can be "claimed" by providers and anti-monopoly supervision. But like most things Repulican, you give a law a fancy title...and your done. All show, no substance.

 

 

by MRFred on 08/25/2008 12:01:22 PM EST

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Its surprising (none / 0)
that so many people went along with the changing of the subject so easily in these comments. KenTX wins :(

Don't talk about religion or politics, my ass!

by TheRob91 on 08/25/2008 11:59:52 AM EST

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A Giant Threat to the Internet and TYT | 55 comments (55 topical, 0 hidden)