I hope other bloggers pick up on this and the the progressive talkers are not to snooty, to try something like it, because it is not their idea, or at least explain what their better idea is.  It shouldn't matter whose idea it is because we all know no one can think of everything.  But, I've seen so many good ideas go through here without being used - here and through so many other sites.

 My hope is that we all stick together.  I was a Marine Sargeant, and at the end of the day, as we got ready to go out on Ambush, I gathered my troops and told them what and how we were going tp pull this off.  But, I ALWAYS asked if anyone in the group had an idea to spit it out in the hope that it was a better idea.  The reason for that was, if we went out there with the second best idea, we might not all make it back.  Far as I know, I was the only Sargeant that did thet.

The idea is to have the best idea in a given fight. 

by Lennilenape on 08/06/2008 12:52:03 AM EST

A guy on DailyKos posted in response to this:

Everyone wants to be the quarterback.

I responded:

I don't care who gets the touches, I just want our side to get some points on the board.

I don't know about y'all, but if anyone wants to steal something I say and use it to try and help win this election, have at it, hoss.

I appreciate the approach with your troops.  I told Ken the other day that when I realize I am wrong I also realize my choices are start being right or keep being wrong.  Seems pretty clear to me.  Lot of people can't figure that out.

by ProfRich on 08/06/2008 01:46:16 AM EST

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I agree we need to be a cohesive force.
Lennilenape, I would like to hear more from you about the military myth exemplified by the "star" at the end of McCain's ads.  So far as I could tell at the end of the Wes Clark dust-up the McCain media let go of the idea that he was just about to be made admiral before he sacrificed to be a public servant in Washington.  As the admiral's son of an admiral's son, people who have been in the military would have good reason to believe that McCain benefited from favoritism or privilege at Annapolis, maybe in his selection to flight school, etc.  Just like Bush.  (This whole "maverick" crap may have begun an entitled brat knowing no upperclassman would have the guts to drill him down.)
Your attitude as a sargeant was the opposite-- ability is greater than pedigree (or rank). That anyone in the squad could contribute, and your attitude now is that all progressives should band together to find the best ability. 
So here is the challenge, many progressives don't have your experience, and many ex-marines are still in the authoritarian mindset which made your soliciting the best ideas an anomoly.  People who served, who suffered from the favoritism given inept, but pedigreed, officers, need to point out not only the lie of McCain's "star" at the end of his ads, but also support Clark's observation as to McCain's lack of command experience.
With the challenges we face in this country we can't go out with the "second best idea" again-- ala Bush.  Cenk pointed out the facts which support the conclusion that John McCain is not all that bright, or if he is, that he hasn't applied himself.  But people who haven't been in the military are afraid to challenge him because they haven't been in the service and don't know why SNAFU is universally understood. 

by NicoloM on 08/06/2008 12:04:12 PM EST

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NicoloM:

Thanks for the excellent reply/Post.  For now, can you let me know of a site where I might find a McCain ad.  In the meantime I'll search around myself.  I've seen a few on TV but never pay much attention to them because of their inability to come near the truth on any issue.

As for officers, Clark is right.  Some officers never come near command positions because of their jobs.  Many pilots fall into that category, especially Navy pilots.  They rarely speak to enlisted men, except for those who assist them in take-off and landing.  But those men have Chief Petty officers (who are equivalent to sargeants) in charge of them.  

From anything I've read, McCain was never in a command position.  A command position in the Navy would be a Captain of a ship, in charge of Seabees, and so on.  No one hears of McCain in any of those positions.

I believe too, that you have to have command of a ship, a heavy Cruiser, Battleship, or Carrier in order to be recommended for Admiral.  These Captains have to be full Captains (an Eagle insignia on their collar, equal to an Army Colonel or Marine) before they can become Admiral.  Again I don't know McCains full story. 

by Lennilenape on 08/06/2008 05:00:05 PM EST

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