I watched the video a couple times and came to the conclusion that he was calling Palin a pig. Then I noticed something else. It seems that Joe Biden, son of Welsh coal miners, may be rubbing off on Barack. Barack is lifting from a lousy cartoonist.

by Twba on 09/11/2008 11:27:36 AM EST

Let's see you do any better, Da Vinci.

by OneHitKill on 09/11/2008 11:49:23 AM EST

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You and Neil Kinnock have something in common.

by Twba on 09/11/2008 12:02:23 PM EST

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the guy Iowa's stadium is named after?

by ProfRich on 09/12/2008 12:00:39 PM EST

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Really?

Its bullshit.

Twenty years ago he gave a speech 12 times and credited Kinnick for the quote 11.  He forgot once.

that is your big issue?

Its idiotic.

Nile Kinnick is Hawkeye stadium guy.

by ProfRich on 09/12/2008 01:13:02 PM EST

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Neil Kinnock is just the tip of the iceberg with Biden's plagiarism.

by Twba on 09/13/2008 12:34:51 AM EST

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Biden plagiarized an article in college in 1965 and then was forgiven by the faculty.

Did you read that article, twba?

All it did was make me nostalgic for a government that actually answered questions and explained their actions.  Jesus, at least the man has the integrity to deal with this issue.

Here is a pop quiz on honesty. 

Which is worse:

A) a Senator plagiarized a paper 43 years ago when he was 21 year-old student.  He presents his defense which he put forth at the time, that he didn't properly understand sourcing, that the administration at Fordham accepted.   The Senator serves 30+ years as a pillar of integrity in the US Senate afterwards.  He never shies away from charges of his wrongdoing and answers all comers openly and directly.

B) a Senator begins lying about his POW experience.  The lies begin ten years ago when he decides he wants to be president.  The lie steals a story from a great Russian writer the Senator calls a personal hero.  The lie is clearly told to curry votes with religious zealots and illicit sympathy.  The Senator refuses to address the lying.  He insists that he is a man of such unquestionable integrity he is above reproach.  He continues to campaign on the lie.

C) the governor of a small state gives a forty minute speech which introduces her to the country.  The speech is almost a non-stop parade of lies.  She is asking to be a hearbeat away from the presidency.  She refuses every interview and will take no questions except for one highly controlled appearance.  Her and her campaign insist on ignoring all the lies even though they are clearly proven.  The campaign manager declares she will only speak to reporters who are "deferential" to her.

D) A young senator runs for president.   Despite being opposed by the slimiest and most dishonest group of people ever assembled, no one can even find a lie to accuse him of.

Rank these four candidates in order of honesty and integrity.

by ProfRich on 09/13/2008 09:06:17 AM EST

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Your programming would allow nothing else.

by MedfordTim on 09/11/2008 02:41:51 PM EST

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I just watched it again and it is clear he is talking about McCain.  He never even mentions Palin or the VP.  Maybe you had your Republican goggles on?

by desertpear on 09/11/2008 02:56:32 PM EST

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Come with me on a magic carpet ride to an alternate universe. In this parallel universe, Barack Obama picked Hillary Clinton to be his veep nominee. During her convention speech, the teleprompter malfunctioned. To give herself a few seconds to regroup, she cracked a self-referential joke whose punchline is the word lipstick. A few days later while campaigning against Obama, John McCain attacked Obama's proposed policies and told a joke about putting lipstick on a pig still leaves you with a pig. The Republican audience howled with delight.

Do you need goggles to understand that?

by Twba on 09/12/2008 11:53:01 AM EST

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So Palin's stupid hackneyed joke made the word "lipstick" unusable for fear of offending your delicate sensibilities?

You hyper-PC, word regulating, thought police, crybaby conservatives are too much.

Grow up.

So can't I then say that McCain offensively using the lipsticked pig comment about Hillary set up Palin's nasty jab at Hillary?

Palin is clearly sexist.

 

by ProfRich on 09/12/2008 01:06:57 PM EST

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So I guess the McCain campaign should tell us when a phrase or joke is okay to use again so we don't accidentally offend Mrs. Palin?

Take it from one of your right-wing mouthpieces if you still can't figure it out:

"There are two kinds of people in the anti-Obama camp - there are McCain supporters and Obama haters. Today the main event was all about lipstick after Senator Obama compared McCain's policy proposals to 'putting lipstick on a pig.' This story comes down to fairness, so let's analyze it in that context. Barack Obama is not a bomb-thrower, he never has been. Also, the Obama campaign knows very well how the vicious personal attacks on Sarah Palin have helped John McCain. So it would be beyond dumb for Senator Obama to smear Sarah Palin. The only people who would do that are the vile smear merchants at the DailyKos and some elements at NBC News. For anyone to say Senator Obama consciously compared Mrs. Palin to a pig is unfair. If you don't like Barack Obama, there are enough legitimate issues to challenge him on. But independent Americans, those who will decide this election, don't like this kind of stuff. And until pigs fly, they never will."

It's obvious that we have only one type of Republican here in the forum--Obama haters (including racists).  Nobody seems willing to be very proactive about telling us why McCain is so great for our country.  I wonder why that is.

by desertpear on 09/12/2008 03:22:09 PM EST

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I seriously doubt Ms. Palin was offended by Barack's trash talking. I wasn't offended.

I just pointed out that the audience recognized it for what it was. It doesn't help you to pretend that he was not making fun of Palin. It only makes you look stupid or hopelessly goggle eyed.

by Twba on 09/13/2008 12:29:21 AM EST

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You claim you watched the Obama quote and concluded he was calling Palin a pig?

Then you are either an idiot or a liar.

Oh, and could you please link to the post expressing your outrage on the numerous occasions McCain referred in the EXACT SAME WAY to Hillary?

by ProfRich on 09/12/2008 11:57:08 AM EST

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I was no more outraged by McCain's reference to pigs and lipstick than I am by Obama's. Just because I don't care if the candidates trash talk doesn't mean I'm unaware of their trash talking.

by Twba on 09/12/2008 12:17:40 PM EST

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So let us never speak of it again.

by ProfRich on 09/12/2008 01:09:30 PM EST

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The issue is that so many are unwilling to admit that Barack was trash talking. Why did everyone in the audience howl with delight when he referred to a pig with lipstick? They knew what he was doing. Barack was poking fun at Palin. Why is it so difficult for you to admit that?

by Twba on 09/13/2008 12:27:06 AM EST

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