Hitler, Rove & the Big Lie: prosecute Rove, Bush, McCain and Palin First Amendment violations | 6 comments (6 topical, 0 hidden)
unvergeblich, vielleicht, aber nicht verboten (none / 0)
Karl Rove hasn't incited anyone to violence that I'm aware of, and his list of alleged civil crimes is long enough that we should work on those first. I disagree with the entire premise because it runs counter to the spirit of the first amendment and the vision that the forefathers had of our country. Yes, Hitler and Karl Rove are free to peddle their wares in the marketplace of ideas. It is the free press that must set the price for the Big Lie.

by hazmat on 09/16/2008 11:34:21 AM EST

Hazmat, Karl has caused violence (none / 0)

No one knows yet where Valerie Plame's collegues are, her contacts in the field; dreaming up a plan that has killed a hundred thousand or more; asking other countries to hold Americans and Canadians for years before they are let go;  only after torture - not that they had anything to reveal, but to scare the hell out of Americans, and instill that war is necessary.

The "Cold War" took many, many lives, and we knew who wanted to "bury" us.  But, we didn't start attacking other countries and its people because of the "terror" known as the Cold War.

I don't know under what sub-title, sub-chapter Karl can be prosecuted, but he did incite violence. 

But, I too agree that prosecuting people who excerise their rights under the 1st is not what we want.  We want to always enjoy it, however difficult it may be lately. 

by Lennilenape on 09/16/2008 01:31:07 PM EST

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however, as Chris stated above (he beat me to the punch!) Karl Rove has been alleged to have committed very serious crimes and civil infractions for which the probability of a conviction is higher. The Plame thing I'm afraid, you'll have to let go, because as I understand it, he will ever be held accountable for betraying his country in that affair.

As for your general point about inciting violence, I consider an imam who instructs people to wear suicide belts an inciter of violence. Karl Rove is merely guilty of lying on behalf of others to seize power. While reprehensible, it is also sadly permissible. It is the responsibility of the opposition and the press to expose him. That is why I am equally angry with democrats for enabling the lies.

by hazmat on 09/16/2008 01:46:32 PM EST

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Hazmat (none / 0)
I hear you clearly and agree.  Thanks

by Lennilenape on 09/16/2008 04:55:25 PM EST

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Hitler, Rove & the Big Lie: prosecute Rove, Bush, McCain and Palin First Amendment violations | 6 comments (6 topical, 0 hidden)