Sorry, hate to be the naysayer, but Obama doesnt win Indiana - way too many rednecks and farmers in the rural areas to compensate for the declining urban populations...

He might be up now, but Indiana stays red in Novemeber...

Try Colorado - y'all have a much better shot there...

:)

by bobo1 on 09/18/2008 11:25:47 PM EST

I live in a little redneck town in Indiana myself, (called Elwood, I imagine Chris is familiar with this town's reputation) and I have seen several Obama signs and no McCain signs as of yet.

I don't think I would bet on a blue Indiana, but it is well within the realm of possibility.

by richardshort2001 on 09/18/2008 11:42:38 PM EST

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The racist vote won't turn out.  They're not motivated enough.  In fact, the KKK wants Obama to win, because they think it will increase their enrollment.  If you haven't forgotten, Evan Bayh is a Democrat.  Obama is carrying the WHOLE state right now, and he has insanely organized teams in the the largest cities in the state.  The definition of "likely" voter has nothing to do with whether they've voted before, it's "how motivated are they to vote?"  All of the Hoosiers that weren't motivated to vote democrat in the Kerry/Gore election, have lost their jobs/homes under the bush they put into office.  They're not that stupid.
Seriously, if there are Obama signs in Elwood, Indiana, then Obama has already won.  Traditionally, if you are black in Indiana, you stay in 5 cities:Bloomington, Gary, Fort Wayne, Lafayette, or Indianapolis.  These are basically the only "black friendly" cities in this state.  People won't shoot you, but they will treat you like a second class citizen if you go to any other city.  Black parents literally warn their kids about not stopping in Martinsville.  Now, what' I'm trying to tell you that in a state that went about 48 to 52 in the Kerry election, getting 1-2 percent in Elwood, Indiana will make ALL the difference in this state.  The fact that Obama took the lead at all in Indiana means that it's in play, but the fact that i've seen the ground game of Obama here/the ad campaign vs. the non-existent ground campaign of mccain you would understand that Obama is going to win.  You see, Hillary ran an AWESOME ground game in Indiana.  She was matching Obama flyer for flyer.  The election here was hillary by 2.  You see my point yet???

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 09/19/2008 12:02:04 AM EST

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not richard. 
for some reason it put the comment there.

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 09/19/2008 12:03:33 AM EST

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it's indented properly for response to bobo

by hazmat on 09/19/2008 12:15:30 AM EST

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But it IS possible.  South Bend is definitely not representative of the state, but it is definitely HIGHLY pro-Obama.

We'll see.

by jarett on 09/19/2008 02:06:05 AM EST

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If Obama wins indiana, bobo has to go outside and hug a tree.  I'm talking about a bear hug, maybe wear a rainbow jacket while doing it...

are you that confident bobo??

by chrisandyasemin on 09/19/2008 02:30:46 AM EST

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I'll go out and fuck that tree...

Thats how confident I am that he doesnt win Indiana...

Mark it here, folks...

:)

by bobo1 on 09/19/2008 08:33:03 AM EST

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If there's a hole in the tree it may have been made by carpenter ants.  They're not particularly aggressive but they may not be able to pass up such an easy meal, so check first.

by bfaul on 09/19/2008 10:19:30 AM EST

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But I know its never gonna happen, cause Obama isnt winning Indiana!

:)

by bobo1 on 09/19/2008 10:34:44 AM EST

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A termite hole would be too big for bobo. He would have to move side to side to get any friction. There probably aren't any holes small enough.

by psyche2 on 09/19/2008 04:02:45 PM EST

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It'll never stand straight again I tell you!!!

:)

by bobo1 on 09/19/2008 11:42:32 AM EST

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better get some condoms made of bark...

by chrisandyasemin on 09/19/2008 12:55:14 PM EST

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I can hardly accept that a person (bobo) is willing to bet the farm merely on the belief that "...rednecks and farmers" will be the difference in this political race.  I DO beleive that rednecks and farmers hold the balance of votes in this 'farming/agricultural state.'  But, that is not how bobo is using his meaning of rednecks and farmers.

Unfortunately, we all know what bobo really means; and there is that percentage.  I've only visited there, but based on my visits, I believe strongly on the way you describe it Chris.  

by Lennilenape on 09/19/2008 02:25:23 PM EST

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