Attacking McCain's POW experience at this point in the campaign is so stupid I am wondering if this isn't a conservative group pretending to be a Democratic 527.

This makes no sense.

by ProfRich on 09/19/2008 03:37:25 PM EST

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This group is an offshoot of the loose confederation of a family members of Viet-era MIAs and those who expolit them. They believe that Vietnam held American POWs past the war's end in 1973, and continues to hold them, and that McCain has been part of a government cover-up.

I give them no credibility, and its doubtful that they will get any traction with the media, who know these people and generally dismiss their claims.

If you want to know more, go here. It's part of a website that debunks the mythology surrounding Vietnam MIAs. The guy who runs it, Col. Joe Schlatter, is no McCain fan but hates liars and con artists. Here's what he says about Hopper:

Earl Hopper, Colonel, US Army Reserve (retired)

+Hopper claims to be a "retired Army intelligence officer."  Horseshit.  Hopper once served as the Intelligence and Security officer for an Army post where his main job was maintaining the library of classified documents.
 
+Hopper is not smart enough to pour piss out of a boot with the instructions printed on the sole.

+Hopper has made a career out of spreading lies about the loss of his son, Earl Hopper, Jr., when his F-4 was shot down over North Vietnam. 

by ashbul on 09/19/2008 07:11:35 PM EST

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Thanks very much, ashbul, for providing the counter evidence that I repeatedly requested which, if true, would negate McCain's POW history from being used.

The fact remains that McCain is openly proven to be a liar every day.  This did not start with the apparent ofset or increasing mental debilities but has been going on for many years; it is a fundamental part of his psychological makup.  Many tens of thousands (millions if extrapolating from the RNC) politicians,  ;corporate and private individuals will not hesitate to advance their own political, religious bigotry and fill their own pockets at the expense of others. This gree d is the underlying cause of much to most of the current national and worldwide economic and other crises.

by Lulliloo on 09/20/2008 03:48:23 AM EST

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the war hero crap.. to a fault.  I dont think anyone should get in a panic over it .


by Chinese Democracy on 09/19/2008 07:48:38 PM EST

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Chris and you are right, I don't know about bobo.  He's going to vote Obama?  When did that come down the pipe?  I work a lot of hours that's why my submissions are so far apart.

by Lennilenape on 09/19/2008 07:55:55 PM EST

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Last I heard anything about it, Bobo wasn't planning to vote for anybody.  He made a big deal about his right to abstain from the democratic process, and was crestfallen when none of us applauded his epic ennui.

Maybe he's woken up to the fact that limiting his political participation to spectatorial naysaying on internet forums makes him look like a clown.  (I guess his username of choice has had a significant hand in that, as well.)

by OneHitKill on 09/20/2008 07:27:01 AM EST

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