I didn't watch this clip of Reich on Maddow's show yet, but I did see Robert Reich being interviewed on another show earlier last week.  At that time, when the interviewer presented him with the accusation that the Clinton Administration had a hand in these deregulations, Reich was more than happy to dissociate himself from that and say it all happened after he left.  From his perspective, that seems like a good way to go. I am curious to actually watch this Maddow clip rather than read KenTX's summary.

David

by yturks on 09/21/2008 11:28:28 AM EST

Turns out this was the clip I had seen before, and yes, KenTX's characterization is far from accurate. You can't trust anything he writes.  Reich was fine in this clip, no squirming at all.

I didn't like Rachel in the opening minutes of this clip. Some of the things she said didn't make sense, and she was too snide and sarcastic in a way that isn't effective.  She ran a clip of Bush saying he believes the flexibility and resiliency of the markets will save us, then she tried to take a shot at Bush which didn't make much sense.

David

by yturks on 09/21/2008 01:07:05 PM EST

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"KenTX's characterization is far from accurate. You can't trust anything he writes. "

No more need be posted on the subject.


by Chinese Democracy on 09/21/2008 02:32:13 PM EST

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It has very little to do with "point of view" and much more with attempting to spin this national crisis in to a refurendum on race.

What we have is another futile attempt to link "multiculturalism" ; ...Republican codeword s for black people and minorities...and the banking mess...to Obama.

That fact is indisputable, and it lies at the very heart of this financial meltdown

That statement plus everything else you posted isvery disputable , factually challenged, to say the least.

Im wondering how a Republican majority and President for 6 out of the last 7 years managed to overlook a financial meltdown you're now claiming was brought on by the Democrats...Far from it, in the  the current mortgage meltdown, did lenders approve bad loans to comply with CRA, or to make money? 

I think we all know the answer to that, you were hooting about how wonderful the economy was since I can remember. An economy built on the housing bubble. Are you saying that the great free market, new idea conservatives who are so economically savvy andwho  incidentally controlled the Whitehouse and Congress during the meat of the problem, missed this?

 Bullshit.

 

by MRFred on 09/21/2008 05:23:35 PM EST

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It has very little to do with your "point of view" and much more with the Republicans attempting to spin this national crisis in to a referendum on race.

What we really have is another futile attempt to link "multiculturalism" ; ... and other Republican codewords for black people and minorities...to the banking mess...and ultimately to Obama. ( Psst Obama is a black man...pass it on)

That fact is indisputable, and it lies at the very heart of this financial meltdown

 

That statement plus everything else you posted is very disputable , factually challenged, to say the least.

Im wondering how a Republican majority and President for 6 out of the last 7 years managed to overlook a financial meltdown you're now claiming was brought on by the Democrats.

Far from it, in the  the current mortgage meltdown, did lenders approve bad loans to comply with CRA, or to make money?

I think we all know the answer to that, you were hooting about how wonderful the economy was since I can remember. An economy built on the very same housing bubble.

Are you saying that the great free market, new idea conservatives who are so economically savvy and who  incidentally controlled the Whitehouse and Congress during the meat of the problem, missed this?

Bullshit.

by MRFred on 09/21/2008 05:49:57 PM EST

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people aren't just going to like you overnight.  You've offended a lot of people, and some are beyond forgiving you, and i completely understand.  I don't personally have anything against you anymore, although the racism makes sense, because historically people of hispanic descent and blacks haven't gotten along all that well, so i can understand you harboring some prejudice.  name calling gets us no-where, but you have to realize that people still harbor some resentment for you for good reason.  just give it time.  I gave you and bobo time.

chris

by chrisandyasemin on 09/21/2008 10:39:29 PM EST

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 "The only guy who has me beat is Tim" 

I've seen you that you've been absolutely humiliated time after time in every issue you've argued - including this one.

You're a clueless nutjob to think any differently.


by perdido619 on 09/22/2008 12:31:46 AM EST

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admit it, you DO want to be friends with us, why else would you spend the last 4 years of your life trying to convince people here that your way is right?  Because we offer you insightful conversation, and we think outside the box.  You said it yourself, but in a more "southern machismo" type of way.  I stick by my words.

I gave you time, and you now treat me with respect.

Give it time

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 09/22/2008 01:40:22 AM EST

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How do you know I'm not trying to kill you with kindness buddy?

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 09/22/2008 01:43:07 AM EST

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the witch is dead...

by chrisandyasemin on 09/22/2008 09:13:35 AM EST

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this forum is fun

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 09/22/2008 10:39:22 AM EST

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The more polite KenTX is, the less you should trust what he is saying.  He's not going to undergo a grand conversion or anything.  Am I right Ken?  You have to give him a break though--he makes so much money that Obama really will be raising his taxes.  Poor Ken. 

by desertpear on 09/22/2008 01:05:25 AM EST

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that can will listen to him, and not call him racist

by chrisandyasemin on 09/22/2008 09:29:30 AM EST

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