First your post sound like you are trying to rationalize things that preface you and me for thousands of years and evolve into more lunacy as generations pass.  Of course I am a guy.  Your whole post/argument can be quantified by the following statement:

"Cenk I cannot believe you told the truth I am not like those other "women" ; so for the sake of not hurting my feelings I (Ana) cannot handle what you just said.  So to make me (Ana) feel better you have to ignore the following 3 things: your life experience with women, the obvious, and human nature."  Then you proceed with your counter-statement as if a person will actually do those 3 things.

Here's a fact for 99.99% of men and women ain't worth the sweat off of ice water.  If that wasn't the case most relationships would results in marriage, however that isn't the world we live in.  Everyone hides what they want in a relationship for men (obviously its to hit and move on) and for women (long term relationship and or being with an unattainable guy for status reasons and or money, or the same reason men want with women).

Plus the US rewards women (no matter who cheated) with copious amounts of unearned additional income when couple has a kid and decide the they want to get child support.  That money supports everything but the child in 99.999999% of the cases. YAY women no reason to commit you get rewarded whether or not the relationship with a kid works out or not. 

However I do empathize with your point of how women are crushed emotionally when they are hurt, but have you ever thought of how men are emotionally hurt to find out that being a good man is outdated and that method of attaining an honest and stable relationship won't work in this world. 

What you said yesterday was nuts about "how some women go out to find sex like men do."  I can't imagine why a megan fox or a jessica alba would do something like that.  However fat chicks and very least desireable looking women that men wouldn't want to be seen with I CAN see doing something like that, but still bounds of reason and it doesn't happen that often.

Everyone if you want a relationship to succeed find a person with self control who can see things from both sides and who isn't a spend thrift.  Please have a firm grip between what is comprise (what you have to do) and pandering (what you shouldn't do that often). 

Men and women need ask what your mate's physical and emotional needs are?  Otherwise you both will be playing "I sunk your battleship"  B4 miss ect. you get it.  No one can read your mind if you don't clearly state what you want then its probably not that important that you get it.  Dating people who are on your level helps, that way you are not dragging someone behind you or slowing someone else down.  Trust me the list ain't that long for a reason, mostly because people won't surrender their ego to common sense. 

The point of relationships isnt to get married, it is to get you emotional or physical needs met.  Sometimes if works out for the short term, sometimes long.

There are honestly some people (idiots) out there who thinks things automatically get better by getting married, please don't fall into this trap.  You change your horrible situation from "up the creek with out a paddle" to up the creek with, no paddle, no boat, no life preserver, and cement shoes (enjoy the ride).  Please don't fall into this.

"I am never afraid to be wrong if anything given more information I can change my opinion"

We still cool though Ana.

by terrill on 01/23/2009 02:26:51 PM EST

Yes women don't like being lied to they require being lied to? Especially the self-esteem based questions.  How do I look in this ect.

by terrill on 01/23/2009 03:38:08 PM EST

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You say that like men are any different! "No, honey, your 'size' is "just right"..."

Every person, male or female, gets insecure about their bodies at times. Every (heterosexual) person wants to look appealing to the opposite sex. The difference is that so many people define women's worth solely based on their looks.

by QED on 01/23/2009 04:14:23 PM EST

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I will agree with this

by diglass on 01/25/2009 11:14:21 PM EST

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Everyone hides what they want in a relationship for men (obviously its to hit and move on)

I am a male and this is precisely the opposite of what I want.  What I want is a committed relationship with a woman who entrances me physically, mentally and emotionally and makes me happy.

I'm 29 years old and reasonably attractive, make great money and have a pretty great future, and yet this goal seems utterly impossible for me (given the empirical evidence of my own interminable series of romantic failures) despite your claim that a committed relationship is precisely what women want.

Maybe your ironclad ruleset isn't so ironclad.

by jarett on 01/26/2009 12:59:16 AM EST

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