for a mea culpa from that matthews guy. I'm not buying it.

by hazmat on 01/26/2009 03:38:49 PM EST

look to me Matthews always seemed like a Democrat, eventhough he grew up in a Republican family. He is a typical DLC Democrat, with it's typical mixed bag of positions, liberal on some issues, conservative on others.
BUT he also soaks up a lot from his environment, I think Olbermann's influence is dragging him to the left at the moment.
Most of the time Matthews is on top of things, but then there's the 10% where he goes in an unbelievable naive mode and that's when we get angry with him :)

Maybe, it's also David Gregory that makes Chris Matthews look good at the moment :) Man, how BAD is David Gregory.

by callisto on 01/26/2009 03:54:02 PM EST

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Gregory is too busy kissing ass to do his job. This weekend's MTP was a good example. He was average with Larry Summers, and then he crawled so far up Boehner's ass I thought they were going to turn the set over to fox news. When Boehner made the snarky Alcatraz reference Gregory let it go as if it was normal.

by hazmat on 01/26/2009 05:12:23 PM EST

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great example, couldn't believe when the Alcatraz reference was made

seems, especially as a Republican, you can say anything on that show now, Gregory never seems to engage them

and the way he engages with Democrats is to throw Republican talking points at their heads, a lot of the times the talking points have been countered days earlier

MTP may have set the discussion for the week with Russell, but under Gregory it's become a round-up of Repuglican talking points

by callisto on 01/26/2009 06:54:01 PM EST

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it was like he was reading from an email Rush sent him. It was beneath the dignity of his office, frankly.

by hazmat on 01/26/2009 07:10:33 PM EST

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Serve the Kool Aid to his guests and expect them to regurgitate Obama talking points? Would that make you happy, Callisto? Watching MTP this week, I thought he let Summers off the hook really easy (no mention of the fact that Summers was part of the problem during the Clinton admin.) As for the "Boner", well, he's a "Boner" (no offense Andrew K). Nothing Gregory did to him would satisfy you libs short of him waterboarding "Boner" live on TV!!! That's what would make you say Gregory was an acceptable host! You Libs are so transparent! :)

by bobo1 on 01/27/2009 09:22:58 AM EST

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he seems to be stuck in his White House Press briefing room modus, maybe it's hard for him to accept that he's been lied to for all these years.

>Serve the Kool Aid to his guests and expect them to >regurgitate Obama talking points?

hell no, I don't want him regurgitating any talking points, unless he looked into them and deemed them correct. Since, he took over, I have seen him use talking points that where prooved lies a couple of days earlier.
While most in the media caught on that the $75/hour autoworkers was BS, days after it broke in the major newspapers, he was still using it.

As for Obama, I don't trust him farther than I can throw him, he needs to proove something before he can built some credit with me. If his administration will not push for investigations into the (possible) crimes of the Bush administration, he'll be a failure as a democratic leader in not fighting for justice in a society of laws IMO.
>I thought he let Summers off the hook really easy (no >mention of the fact that Summers was part of the >problem during the Clinton admin

indeed, he should have brought that up, I wouldn't have had any problem with that. But for that question you need to know some background, I'm seriously starting to think that Gregory isn't on top of things, he doesn't seem to get anything more complicated than a one-liner.

by callisto on 01/27/2009 10:55:13 AM EST

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The fact that Gregory is a putz, but I don't believe anyone (especially at NBC) can seriously be called objective or even a journalist at this point. They are about as disreputable as Fox is on the right at this point. They are all corporate driven media outlets, and they simply will not allow the "truth" of the matter to be distributed. I personally find that the "honeymoon" time is still in full force, and Obama is taking full advantage of the positive media coverage while covering up hid glaring inadequacies as a leader. :)

by bobo1 on 01/27/2009 11:17:16 AM EST

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>They are about as disreputable as Fox is on the right >at this point

no, the major difference is that Fox News gets caught on (really dumb) mistakes all the time, while MSNBC doesn't.
And as we have seen MSNBC corrects (some) mistakes, I've seen Olbermann and Maddow do mea culpas.

It's not so much the spin with Fox, we know where they come from, it's that they can't fact check the simplest things it seems (everytime they say "the first time in history that", you know you need to fact check, because they're pulling stuff out of their asses).

by callisto on 01/27/2009 11:32:13 AM EST

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The poisonous fruit of the same tree. I don't see much difference in either of them. In fact, I find MSNBC more venomous toward Fox than otherwise... But, your point is taken and overall is still valid - David Gregory is a clueless putz who needs to do something about those Gregory Peck eyebrows, QUICK!!! :)

by bobo1 on 01/27/2009 11:43:41 AM EST

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