"...socialism is the ultimate goal."   

I've not heard that anywhere on this site in the many years I've been posting. There are some - repeat, SOME programs which ought to be covered by the "general welfare" desire in our Constitution. I go much further than Obama (single payer, dude!) on some of his issues but that doesn't mean I want a socialist country. I want a Fair Trade policy - nothing wrong with trade or profit, just obscene profits and grossly unjust trade.

I like businesses so much, I'd like to see corporations go back to being businesses and lose their "personhood" status. It would make it sooo much easier to hold these bastards accountable. How is that a Socialist view?

I could be wrong; there might be some full-fledged Socialists hangin' around, I'm just saying that my impression is that posters are for a responsible capitalism instead of the "Grab It All!" form we've been seeing since Reagan.

Bush, the Banks, the Financial giants of this country did Al Qaeda's bidding - drove our economy straight into the ground. That course needs to change.

"...being forwarded to people who didn’t work hard..."

Wanna try that one again? You mean like waitresses, cooks, dishwashers, janitors, retail employees, etc., etc.? You think those people haven't worked hard? Simply outrageous. You think them bums? There is NO direct correlation between how hard a person works and what they are paid. If that were so, diswashers would be getting executive salaries and executives would be getting janitor wages.

And you're trying to pull a fast one with that "$3000 a month S.S. check" nonsense. That is only if you've averaged $7685 per month income and don't retire until 70. Most people get much, MUCH less. You might call it "subsitance" level - if the recipient is lucky. (of course, what ought be considered "subsistance" in 2009 is a whole 'nother thread...)

Oh, and as a low income person, I do want you to know that I don't drink malt liquor and I've been rolling my own cigarettes for a decade so my monthly bill for those combined items is roughly $35 per month - and the tobacco taxes goes to the state health insurance program which I don't qualify for because my $950 income per month is too much.

Guess that's what I get for being a bum...

by MedfordTim on 01/06/2009 02:14:10 AM EST

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I tried to email the author asking him to break that down because I don't believe him, but you have to be a subscriber to WSJ to contact their writers. That figure is smellier than a Salmon sitting in the back seat for a week. I am kept at an income level which barely qualifies for Food Stamps. $10 per month is the MAX I qualify for. He would need to explain to me how he arrived at that figure - it just doesn't fit the real world.

But I DID notice that the rest of the article pretty much sums up the point I was trying to make. Unscrupulous loan agents signing up anyone they can so they can sell the mortgages. Greedy profiteers cold calling people with loan offers and bending the truth in order to get the loan through.

by MedfordTim on 01/06/2009 11:25:05 AM EST

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