What's Kind of Civilian Killing is Worse? | 54 comments (54 topical, 0 hidden)
"this recent nonsense" (none / 0)
You can conveniently say that the recent violence began with Hamas' Qassam rocket attacks but that opinion and the mainstream media fueled conventional wisdom it represents is short sighted. What I'm about to say may look like an angry tirade because there's no inflection in text communication so know that I mean no offense, fellow young turk. To say that the fact that Israel's revenge has killed disproportionately more people doesn't matter because the rocket attacks from Gaza "interrupt Israel's commerce and happenings" is laughable. The Israeli army controls the air space, territorial waters, offshore maritime access, population registry, entry of foreigners, import and export of goods as well as the tax system in Gaza and they've abused this control to collectively punish the Palestinians. There is an extreme shortage of food, fuel and medicine in Gaza as a result of the military blockade. Gaza is being starved. The Israeli military continued to collect VAT taxes on behalf of the Palestinian Authority in calendar year 2007 but refused to hand over the collected revenue to the government or alternatively return it to tax-paying citizens. They've also seized the assets of Palestinian banks (at gun point) and curtailed the flow of sheckles into the occupied territories. Gaza is being robbed. Compare hiding in a bomb shelter for a few hours to living in the world's largest ghetto.

by sovnarkom on 01/04/2009 04:40:49 PM EST

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Yeah, wonderful, man-- let's assume that your allegations are all true.

No one is answering this question: does is justify the constant daily stream of rockets into Israel? Is there a better means of proesting the Israelis? Apparently you guys believe that there isn't a better means of protesting them.

This is all Deductive Logic 101 to me, but it's expected because I understand how human beings view things. They take one side of an argument then everything else about the other side is warped or meaningless to them. To me and anyone else who has a firm grasp of logic, the issue is "who is initiating the violence? Who has outright declared war against the other side?" You can say "the Israelis did this and that covertly 20 years ago and this and that 15 years ago and that thing with the thing 5 years ago, therefore Israeli civilians should just take missiles up their asses daily and try to go on about life as normal." Beautiful. To me, it's bullshit.

When blacks protested violently&nb sp;in Watts during '65 and around the nation during '92 I guess you guys would make the case or made the case that based on America's history it was all justified. In fact, blacks should have taken it a step further-- maybe they should have formed their own colonies, declared war against the states then launched random missiles against the U.S. I don't know... and I'm starting to think that I don't WANT to know how people who side with Hamas think.

I will say that I would never label Hamas "a terrorist organization" because it's counterproductive to Palestinians' sovereignty and the long term stability of the region. Our moronic politicians label Iranians terrorists without a second thought, so it's also expected.

In conclusion, you guys are f--ing crazy. No, I kid.

by FlaccidMember on 01/04/2009 05:17:31 PM EST

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100% right, 0% wrong (none / 0)

in my humble opinion.

There's a reason the Palestinians are often shown throwing rocks as weapons. 

Seems to me that Israel was already itching for an excuse to bomb the shit out of Hamas.

by desertpear on 01/04/2009 05:30:57 PM EST

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What's Kind of Civilian Killing is Worse? | 54 comments (54 topical, 0 hidden)