where you say "people could purchase a cable subscription to watch fox news". Really? C'mon man. And liberals are supposed to be against people purchasing Rush Limbaugh podcasts? Hey, we allowed you to buy a TYT membership. Give it a rest. Apart from that, your initial point has validity, that we didn't care much when the big three (NBC, ABC, CBS) were all there was on TV. However, they weren't exactly "telling people what to think". They had news divisions that asked hard questions of people in power, democrat and republican alike. Its not the same thing. As we say often around here, reality and facts have a well-known liberal bias.

by hazmat on 01/08/2009 11:26:21 PM EST

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I do not wish to outlaw Fox News, or Rush Limbaugh. I have never heard anyone propose this, here, or anywhere else. But obviously you have.

"I hear the voices!" -George W. Bush.

by hazmat on 01/09/2009 10:51:39 PM EST

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This documentary is about fighting a source of information that is one of 200-300 cable or satellite channels you have an option of viewing.

There aren't 200-300 cable news channels competing with Fox. I'm sure more conservatives would turn to Nickelodeon for their current events fix if it weren't so gosh darn cerebral.

by OneHitKill on 01/10/2009 09:29:18 AM EST

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Fox is full of disinformation. That's okay, its their right. I think "fight" in this context was meant to refer to the marketplace of ideas, as in fight the disinformation. First and foremost is the fight to label them as opinion media, which is utterly appropriate. Yes I have seen the film, and that is how I took it to mean. You come on here and "fight" against liberalism everyday. You have openly expressed the desire to see it squashed. And yet your right to express yourself in this forum has been actively defended by the regular participants on many occasions. Despite what you may think, it is not because you're a "paying customer". Clearly, you're making shit up in (as usual). Sorry Ken, you lose this one.

by hazmat on 01/10/2009 12:33:06 PM EST

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came out with that film at a point that will be regarded in by History as a watershed in American conservative politics. Conservative voices dominated every corner of the airwaves and print media. The tip of the spear of the corporate controlled agenda was fox news. If by "obstruct" and "block" you mean offer an alternative viewpoint, then you are correct, because that was Robert Greenwalds aim. What fox news does of course is not to offer both points of view. They offer straw men in place of liberal opinion, and spin in place of facts. They are entitled to do that. And we are entitled to name them for what they are: Not A News Organisation. In fact, I propose that to be Fox's new call letters. NANO.

by hazmat on 01/10/2009 05:29:21 PM EST

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is the foundation of everything. Conservatives are against it. I welcome you to my "free speech zone". I really have no idea what you're talking about "red handed". If your referring to Dan Rather, the story he broke is 100% true, but, sad day for him, he took Karl Rove's bait and ended up with egg on his face. CBS effectively fired him (squeezed him out you might say) because they are concerned for their reputations, and importantly, deathly afraid of right wing backlash. Fox News? They cover unsubstantiated propaganda all the time. In fact its par for the course over there. The difference is that they're not losing any sleep over public perception of their low-to-non-existent journalism standards.

I'll say it again, nobody has asked to take them off the air. You sound like a real nutter. Hey, I won't cry if they fold because they lost 2 billion this year, but I fully expect someone else to replace them if they do go under. That's the beauty of the marketplace. It just sent fox a $2 bn messg.

Pwnd.

by hazmat on 01/10/2009 08:00:05 PM EST

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