the relevance of your point to mine depends on whether the older brother in the analogy represents the indirectly applicable collective will of the Israeli people or the directly applicable will of the Israeli government. If the latter is the case, then although the Israeli people do get to choose who makes the choice for them, the government still ultimately makes that choice. If the former is the case (which, I concede, seems more likely on rereading), then the people getting injured or killed still may not agree with the collective decision of their fellow Israelis. Either way, we have a situation where some people are making a decision for others that affect their health or wellbeing. This is very different than the situation with the brothers in which the person who makes the decision is the only one affected by its consequences.

by mechanicalMonkey on 01/07/2009 12:37:18 PM EST

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it would be the directly applicable will of the Israeli government, whereas the brother seems to represent the indirectly applicable will of the Israeli people.  When communities grow to the size of nation/states and require governments with bureaucracies then the collective will is often subordinated to the decisions of the bureaucrates unless those government bureaucracies are turned over to private businesses whose primary goal is to make a profit.  That is where this nation stands with the republicans selling out to the greed of private contractors working for the DoD and our health industry.  Obama, IMHO, will want to reign in those impulses and take the profit incentive out of both defense and health care.
     The current Israeli governement, it appears, has politics rather than private greed driving it to the extremes we now see in Gaza.  I don't think the older brother would break both his younger brother's legs, arms, and neck while holding his head over a candle just to make a point.  The father (Israeli govt.), though, should be held accountable by the collective will of the larger community (ie. UN, NATO, Arab League, or other world body) and it is that entity (perhaps only public opinion) that will have to eventually prevail.  I hope and believe Barack Obama will lead in that effort on January 20th.

by gatekeeper50 on 01/07/2009 02:45:39 PM EST

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