Ken, stop!  You're shaking the foundation of my entire life!  Black is white, up is down!  Stop the madness!  This must be what it felt like for you when Rush told you that he was totally full of shit.

by Spencer on 01/07/2009 06:19:06 PM EST

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Ken likes to be led on, be it by Rush, Cenk or Spencer.

by OneHitKill on 01/07/2009 09:06:26 PM EST

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Republicans always criticize AFTER the fact, when it's too late *or* popular to do so.

The best example of a lack of criticism of Bush year after year after year. He got a 90%+ free pass for the first 5 years or so.

And the few times he was criticized from popular conservative media figures it was on no-brainer issues, again, when it was very easy to do so.  These fuck-faces shut up and fall in line until it's too late, unlike Cenk who has pissed off many a progressive for being honest and critical even when it's unpopular.

by Tom Hanc on 01/07/2009 10:21:44 PM EST

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Rush is saying that he's been LYING to you to keep Republicans in power.  That's a completely different thing than saying that Democrats should be stronger.  Limbaugh is essentially saying that he doesn't base his show on what he actually believes, because it sounds like he believes that Bush has been fucking up for the past four years (or six years now), but he never seemed to want to tell his audience that. 

This is emblematic of something larger, where the difference between liberals and conservatives is really stark.  Libs want to have actual debates where we take all of the sides and points into account, even ones that disagree with us.  Cenk does it all the time.  Democrats do it all the time, and exploiting that is the reason that Republicans have gotten away with so much bullshit in the past.  But conservatives, on the other hand, just want to win, no matter what.  Deny that anything they've ever done was wrong,  stick their fingers in their ears and yell over your opposition, lie, cheat, steal, whatever.  Just win.  Go team!

by Spencer on 01/08/2009 01:05:24 AM EST

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Probably the same way it felt to you when Cenk said he didn't approve of the tactics of Reid and Pelosi in 2007.

I 100% agreed with him.

See, we aren't hardcore ideologues like you folk are.  We can admit deviance from the party line.

Turns out diversity is our strength.  Funny.

by jarett on 01/08/2009 09:53:03 AM EST

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