"that's gay"  is so last month. But I would have to add that despite Cenk professing to be a friend of the LGBT community, there is a certain underlying uneasiness. He is not casual about his support , its forced. What I mean to say is, Cenk doesn't seem comfortable with LGBT's , but feels he has to support the community because it is the right thing to do.

Either way, his support is appreciated I have no doubt.

by 14K on 01/07/2009 02:29:26 PM EST

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Have you videos of Cenk discussing these issues?

Better yet, did you read his recent article on it that has around 70,000 views and 700 comments at Huffington Post?

by Tom Hanc on 01/07/2009 03:00:44 PM EST

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"have you seen".

by Tom Hanc on 01/07/2009 03:02:11 PM EST

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In my opinion the article is more about the hypocrisy of the religious right than it is about gay rights. In any event I think he would defend gay rights.

by 14K on 01/08/2009 12:22:33 AM EST

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discussing prop 8 and marriage equality?

Part of his argument is regarding the religious right, but another (huge) part of it is his argument that it's a civil rights issue.

There a couple good clips in this list.

by Tom Hanc on 01/08/2009 12:29:32 AM EST

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Ken, stop!  You're shaking the foundation of my entire life!  Black is white, up is down!  Stop the madness!  This must be what it felt like for you when Rush told you that he was totally full of shit.

by Spencer on 01/07/2009 06:19:06 PM EST

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Ken likes to be led on, be it by Rush, Cenk or Spencer.

by OneHitKill on 01/07/2009 09:06:26 PM EST

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Republicans always criticize AFTER the fact, when it's too late *or* popular to do so.

The best example of a lack of criticism of Bush year after year after year. He got a 90%+ free pass for the first 5 years or so.

And the few times he was criticized from popular conservative media figures it was on no-brainer issues, again, when it was very easy to do so.  These fuck-faces shut up and fall in line until it's too late, unlike Cenk who has pissed off many a progressive for being honest and critical even when it's unpopular.

by Tom Hanc on 01/07/2009 10:21:44 PM EST

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Rush is saying that he's been LYING to you to keep Republicans in power.  That's a completely different thing than saying that Democrats should be stronger.  Limbaugh is essentially saying that he doesn't base his show on what he actually believes, because it sounds like he believes that Bush has been fucking up for the past four years (or six years now), but he never seemed to want to tell his audience that. 

This is emblematic of something larger, where the difference between liberals and conservatives is really stark.  Libs want to have actual debates where we take all of the sides and points into account, even ones that disagree with us.  Cenk does it all the time.  Democrats do it all the time, and exploiting that is the reason that Republicans have gotten away with so much bullshit in the past.  But conservatives, on the other hand, just want to win, no matter what.  Deny that anything they've ever done was wrong,  stick their fingers in their ears and yell over your opposition, lie, cheat, steal, whatever.  Just win.  Go team!

by Spencer on 01/08/2009 01:05:24 AM EST

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Probably the same way it felt to you when Cenk said he didn't approve of the tactics of Reid and Pelosi in 2007.

I 100% agreed with him.

See, we aren't hardcore ideologues like you folk are.  We can admit deviance from the party line.

Turns out diversity is our strength.  Funny.

by jarett on 01/08/2009 09:53:03 AM EST

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A bunch of guys blowing each other in a public restroom while their wives wait in the car would be republicans. Oh you said bath house  how quaint you must be really old to use that reference or did you just see the movie MILK  I hear its fabulous.

Speaking of struggling  you are struggling with the meaning of cognative dissonance. Next time look it up on an online dictionary.

The socialsts are firmly in charge now

So why hasnt your lying ass moved to Costa Rica yet?  To many brown people there huh?  

There see how nice I am. I could tell by your post you where gagging for attention so I gave you a little. Not much  just a taste.  

;)

I would hate another entire thread be turned into people attacking you,  that gets so fucking boring.

Tiny says hi.. btw where is Leeeberal? seen him lately kenny troll?


by Chinese Democracy on 01/08/2009 12:29:45 AM EST

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The naked fight scene with Vigo Mortenson that made your pants so tight took place in a bathhouse.  Question answered.

by Spencer on 01/08/2009 01:17:21 AM EST

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