Do you think pedophiles have chosen their orientation?
Or were they born like that and therefore it's ok?

Homosexuality doesn't infringe on anyone else's rights. Pedophilia does. You're comparing something harmless (like being born with a certain color hair) to something anomalous (like being born with a Gatling gun for an arm).

by OneHitKill on 11/29/2009 03:37:01 AM EST

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What is the relevance of being born that way?

You admitt, that it does not mean it's a good thing, so why drag on about it?

It is totally irrelevant.

When you say, that being gay is ok, because gays were born this way, than you have to accept, that pedophiles were born this way, too.

Than you have to argue that they don't infringe on anybody's rights.
I said the argument should be that they don't infringe on anybodies rights and everything else is irrelevant.

Why construct an argument that can so easily be misused and is totally irrelevant?

"The first thing Fascists usually try to do is silencing the opposition."

by opposition on 11/29/2009 05:43:40 AM EST

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When you say, that being gay is ok, because gays were born this way, than you have to accept, that pedophiles were born this way, too.

I don't have to do anything. I'm not a robot. I judge things individually. So should everyone. Even if I concede that being born gay doesn't in and of itself make homosexuality "okay," I still don't see any meaningful evidence that it's "wrong," so you can't call my argument irrelevant without re-examining your own.

Pedophilia and homosexuality have been determined incomparable by modern society. Catch up to the rest of us already.

by OneHitKill on 11/29/2009 07:19:12 AM EST

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We all have to die, except for the robots!;)

If your argument is, that we shouldn't discriminate against gay people, because they were born this way, than your argument is irrelevant and stupid!
The only reason, why we shouldn't discriminate against them or try to "cure" them is because they don't hurt anybody and don't want to be "cured".
Being born gay has nothing to do with it.

I compare whatever I want. When you say we shouldn't discriminate against gays, because they were born this way I wonder why you think we should discriminate against pedophiles. They were born this way, too.

Then you have to go back to they don't hurt anyone and I said that is the first and only reason.

Saying we shouldnt discriminate against them because they were born this way is as sensible as saying we shouldn't discriminate against them, because they use more beauty products than straight men.

"The first thing Fascists usually try to do is silencing the opposition."

by opposition on 11/29/2009 11:09:07 AM EST

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If your argument is, that we shouldn't discriminate against gay people, because they were born this way, than your argument is irrelevant and stupid!

That isn't my argument. My argument is that we shouldn't discriminate against gay people because we gain nothing by doing so. Comparing them to pedophiles achieves nothing except making the world believe that you are hell-bent on defending pedophiles (and, by extension, that maybe you're also a pedophile yourself).

by OneHitKill on 11/29/2009 06:50:47 PM EST

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I agree with your basic argument, and keep asking why people always bring this weak it's natural argument.

PS: Seems like all the people who compared Bush with the Nazis were hell-bent on defending the Nazis, and by extension maybe Nazis themselves.
Oh my God! Beck was right all the time!
That fuckin Nazi.
Now I confused myself.

"The first thing Fascists usually try to do is silencing the opposition."

by opposition on 11/29/2009 11:38:46 PM EST

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PS: Seems like all the people who compared Bush with the Nazis were hell-bent on defending the Nazis, and by extension maybe Nazis themselves.

That doesn't even come close to making sense.

by OneHitKill on 11/30/2009 05:03:30 AM EST

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