Sorry I forgot to answer this one...

And please provide links for the claim that it is a solar system wide phenomenon that can be attributed to the same root causes as Earths warming.
Well the solar activity claim I base on this and this (the graphs of solar activity and Earths temperature made by danish scientists Svensmark and Christensen) that show a clear correlation between the two which make solar activity the most likely culprit for Earth temperature changes...

Now it's true no such graphs exist for the temperature rises on Venus Mars and Jupiter (since we don't have temperature record of those planets going back)... but if solar activity is responsible for temperatures on Earth then it should be solar system wide and lo and behold we do see temperature rises all over the solar system right now (just as on Earth)...

I know that doesn't prove that solar activity is responsible on those planets but coupled with the fact that it seems to be the culprit on Earth it seem logical to assume as much... but you are welcome to disagree...

Love Thothlike

by Thothlike on 11/25/2009 10:15:59 AM EST

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but if solar activity is responsible for temperatures on Earth then it should be solar system wide

Yes, that is why I asked for links that explain or at least affirm that claim. I have done a not-so-extensive search and I have found several articles about the subject but they were mostly about Mars and Juppiter and the phenomena were explained by different mechanisms. Only for the melting of Mars' ice caps some theorize it may have been due to solar radiation.

The funniest thing I read, though, was the claim that because Juppiters active storms have climbed 10° K in temperature there is something like global warming due to solar influence on Juppiter... 1st, Juppiter is a little further away from the sun and does not get much heat from the sun in the first place but generates most of it itself! 2ndly: I do not have the exact numbers but life on Earth most likely would be been evaporated if the Sun made Juppiter 10° warmer. Feel free to disprove that. I just guess.

Sorry to say that, but if I read an article that says something akin to "Global warming throughout the solar system", I call bull shit. Because global warming as claimed on Earth requires an atmosphere with a significant greenhouse effect. Afaik, only venus is capable of that. Maybe some of the larger moons but there the solar influence is very limited.

and lo and behold we do see temperature rises all over the solar system right now (just as on Earth)...

Again, please feel free to provide me with links for that, especially for Mars, Venus and Pluto (and if you can measure an effect on Pluto, the effects on Neptune and Saturn must be huge). But I don't want to talk about Uranus... ;) schwang wang wang...


I know that doesn't prove that solar activity is responsible on those planets but coupled with the fact that it seems to be the culprit on Earth it seem logical to assume as much... but you are welcome to disagree...

No, I agree totally. If solar activity increases, the effects should be felt throughout the solar system. And the sun is the culprit that heats up Earth in any case. But the other planets might not have such an effective heat trap like we have on Earth. And also, they probably don't have to support (complex) life forms that are adapted to a certain temperature range.

by eborujion on 11/27/2009 08:58:46 AM EST

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 Juppiter is a little further away from the sun and does not get much heat from the sun

Jupiter is about 5 times as far away from the sun as Earth is. The flux of photons from the sun varies inversely with the distance from the sun cubed. So Earth receives about (5x5x5)=125 times as many photons per square meter as Jupiter does.

We are a way for the cosmos to know itself.

by aidbo on 11/29/2009 08:36:56 PM EST

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I hope-guess that somehow helps my point ;).

by eborujion on 12/01/2009 01:33:42 PM EST

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