Indigents already receive free health care in America. All they need to do is go to an emergency room.
Yes but that only covers emergencies (i.e. broken bones and blody noses and... etc.) it doesn't cover treatment and decease(cancer and meningitis and... etc.)...

My guess is that you might have witnessed this lack of initiative from some citizens in your own country.
Off course we have people who can but doesn't want to work (just like every other country in the world)... we are no different in that respect...

The question isn't whether we have those people... the question is whether we have more of those people than the US (and everybody else)... and whether the people who wants to work in the US are better or worse of than the same people in Denmark (and every other industialized country who ALL have universal healthcare)...

The answer to those two questions are...
No we don't have more 'lazy' people than the US...
And the working people in the rest of the industrialized world (incl. Denmark) are better insured for less money than the working people in the US...

So the question becomes... if you could recieve better coverage for less money (even if the 'lazy' people would get it to)... do you want it?
Or do you dislike the 'lazy' people SO MUCH that you are willing to pay more for less coverage just so they don't get any coverage? :-D

Love Thothlike

by Thothlike on 11/26/2009 06:19:04 AM EST

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Poor people with serious illness like cancer or heart disease receive free health care in America.
If that's true then I stand corrected... that just wasn't my impression... why do people then complain about being denied for anything by the insurrance compagnies for preexisting conditions etc. if they can get it for free if they want to?

Socialism offers nothing for me.
So you would vote for disbanning mediecare and mediecaid and the police and the firedepartment and the courts and the army and... (every other 'free' socialist benifits you recieve from your government payed for by your taxes) and just let people pay for it themselves when their car gets stolen and they need the police or their house burns and the need the firedepartment or when your country is attacked then let the people who want to defend it pay for the army or... etc... all out of their own pocket?

We have a "Two Tier" health care system in America. Poor people receive free care that looks like this, and that's how it should be.
Nice picture :-S hehe
Well if this is what you are ok with and you believe (and your answer to my above question is yes to all) then at least you are consistent... you most certainly doesn't share my view of humanity and that pesky litlle christian/socialist value of helping your fellow man in need...

But that's ok we don't all have to agree... :-D - I'm not looking for followers here... I'm looking for who's consistent and honest and who are hypocrits and trolls... :-D

Love Thothlike

by Thothlike on 11/26/2009 08:20:55 AM EST

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Yes indeed. Poor people with cancer receive world class care at facilities like MD Anderson in Houston, and there is no charge.
Then I stand corrected :-D

Not at all. Those are earned benefits. Americans contribute to these funds with every paycheck.
Yes... called taxes :-D

I’m sorry we disagree, but please don’t be angry.
LOL I'm most certainly not angry... I can handle disagreement... what pisses me off are hypocrites and trolls (of which you have proven to be neither so far)... :-D

I’m all for giving people a helping hand when they temporarily lose their job. In fact, I would like to see benefits enhanced and extended, including health care.
How Liberal of you :-D hehe

Notice when you disagree with American Conservatives, the conversation remains genteel and respectful. But when you tried to disagree with American Liberals in the same tone, you suffered vile, personal insults.

That’s because conservatives are much more secure and confident in their positions than liberals are. You are shaking the foundations of liberal belief systems, which are very shallow to begin with. It's very disturbing to these childlike, dependent personalities.

Well that luckily is not true :-D
First you are forgetting that I'm one of those damn Liberals... and I'm VERY confident in my position :-D
Second I have meet many people in this discussion who are also left wing like me when it comes to politics and that completely disagree with my views on manmade global warming... but I have only found one troll (at least so far)... so I can't say (based on those facts) that Liberals or Conservatives are more prone in here to be trolls... everybody (except one) have been surprisingly (in the positive sense) civil and interested in honest and open discussions...

So thank you all for proving me wrong :-D

Love Thothlike

by Thothlike on 11/26/2009 10:42:16 AM EST

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Or do you dislike the 'lazy' people SO MUCH that you are willing to pay more for less coverage just so they don't get any coverage? :-D

Let me give you an objective answer for Kenny the Fascist Clown (KFC):
He hates lazy people (that includes mentally and otherwise handicapped people, people who have suffered from a terrible blow of fate and children) SOSOSOSO MUCH that he actually would pay MORE money to see them suffer more. And that is exactly what he is doing in the current system and you point out in your post. I have made the exact point multiple times before but he is too stupid to understand that point and too hateful of what he calls "indigents" (scapegoats to blame for everything that goes wrong, like the Jews in Nazi Germany).

I only skimmed the rest of the conversation but let me assure you: Kenny is a troll in the true sense of the internet lingo word (inflammatory posts, then runs away, lies and cajoles unsuspecting new members like yourself to sway them to his side). Eveningstar is not. ES is a little moody and not very patient with noobs ;).

by eborujion on 11/27/2009 08:49:11 AM EST

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