9 scientists find Nano-Thermite Explosive in 9/11 samples | 46 comments (46 topical, 0 hidden)
I know it may invoke a flame war of some kind.... (4.50 / 2)

The problem with this story has many points. When wiki'd I came up with nothing for any of the "scientists" except for Steven Jones. He is physicist known mainly for his work on cold fusion (Muon-catalyzed fusion). When I googled their names, I only came up with links to anything related to 9/11. This leads me to believe that they have done nothing else or are not scientists at all or at least have never written a paper before. They also speculate the amount of explosive that must have been present which they themselves find to be a ridiculous amount to have gone unnoticed. The main guy mentioned in the youtube clip also makes comments that lead me to believe he was completely unaware of the fact that part of one of the two main buildings fell into and gouged building 7 quite severely.

I wish when evidence was presented for these conspiracy theories, it wasn't the same old things (or very close to it) from the same people.

Flame on!

by Hilikus9191 on 04/18/2009 01:18:35 AM EST

Nothing Noteworthy (none / 0)

Just a thought. But have you ever tried Goggling any other scientists from any other study? It's not like were talking about "American Idol" finalists. Most scientists are complete unknowns who have done nothing noteworthy.

 

by Rincewind on 04/18/2009 03:22:01 PM EST

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peer-reviewed research - PEER REVIEWED (none / 0)
Please see my post below. The integrity of this research was verified by independent third-party scientists. The authors of this study all have PhDs from notable institutions. This isn't a popularity contest involving Google hits. It is hard-core scientific data. If you'd rather not believe the conclusions of this alarming research - that thermite (an explosive) was discovered in dust created by the destruction of the World Trade Centers in New York -- that is a psychological response, not an objective conclusion based on the evidence at hand.  

by truthisall on 04/18/2009 03:37:26 PM EST

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The evidence points to controlled demolition (none / 0)

This is a 'peer-reviewed' scientific paper. This cannot be ignored or discredited unless the research is later 'proven' to be incorrect. Simply denying it's content and implications is meaningless.

All three steel structure buildings that collapsed in NYC on 9/11 did so in near freefall acceleration. Never before or since 9/11 have steel structure buildings completely collapsed due to fire. Collapsing downward symmetrically 'into the path of most resistance'. Multi-ton steel support columns were laterally ejected outward as far as 600 feet from their point of origin. If the official government conspiracy theory claims that these buildings all fell as a result of a gravity driven collapse then where did the energy come from the ejected these large steel columns outward? What was the energy source that caused all of the concrete in the two towers to be pulverized into a fine power. How did these buildings collapse at essentially the same speed as it would take to drop a ball from the top of these buildings to hit the ground with only air as it's resistant force?

NIST admits a brief freefall collapse of WTC 7:

NIST's Half-Admission of Yet Another 9/11 Smoking Gun

LINK: http://www.ae911truth.org/i nfo/49

Although NIST was required by fire codes to test the dust and debris for sign of explosives they did not test for those.

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WTC Building #7 (a 47-story high-rise not  hit by an airplane) exhibits all the characteristics of a classic controlled demolition with explosives:  (and some non-standard characteristics)1.  Rapid onset of “collapse”2.&nb sp; Sounds of explosions at ground floor - a full second prior to collapse3.  Symmetrical “collapse” – through the path of greatest resistance – at free-fall speed4. Imploded, collapsing completely, and landed mostly in its own footprint5. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic dust clouds6. Several tons of molten metal reported by numerous highly-qualified witnesses7.  Chemical signature of Thermite (high tech incendiary) found in solidified molten metal, and dust samples by physics professor Steven Jones, PhD.8.  FEMA finds rapid oxidation and intergranular melting on structural steel samples9. Expert corroboration from the top European Controlled Demolition professional10. Fore-knowledge of “collapse” by media, NYPD, FDNY





Source: www.ae911truth.org

Bill Manning, Editor of Fire Engineering Magazine, referred to the 9/11 investigation as a 'half-baked farce' and also pleaded for the removal of the steel from GroundZero to stop being sent off to China without allowing for a full investigation.

Watch the new documentary entitles "Core of Corruption" on Google for many more rare film clips and a plethora of smoking guns.

by Cincy911Truth on 04/19/2009 01:36:36 PM EST

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More about the buildings' collapse (none / 0)
WTC Building #7 (a 47-story high-rise not  hit by an airplane) exhibits all the characteristics of a classic controlled demolition with explosives:  (and some non-standard characteristics)
1.  Rapid onset of “collapse”
2.  Sounds of explosions at ground floor - a full second prior to collapse
3.  Symmetrical “collapse” – through the path of greatest resistance – at free-fall speed
4. Imploded, collapsing completely, and landed mostly in its own footprint
5. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic dust clouds
6. Several tons of molten metal reported by numerous highly-qualified witnesses
7.  Chemical signature of Thermite (high tech incendiary) found in solidified molten metal, and dust samples by physics professor Steven Jones, PhD.
8.  FEMA finds rapid oxidation and intergranular melting on structural steel samples
9. Expert corroboration from the top European Controlled Demolition professional
10. Fore-knowledge of “collapse” by media, NYPD, FDNY

And exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire, i.e.
1. Slow onset with large visible deformations
2. Asymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, to the side most damaged by the fires)
3. Evidence of fire temperatures capable of softening steel
4. High-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer lasting fires have never “collapsed”.

Source: www.ae911truth.org

by Cincy911Truth on 04/19/2009 01:44:15 PM EST

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Wrong on all accounts here (none / 0)
No need for a longer response as clearly you are ignorant or crazy.

by Hilikus9191 on 04/19/2009 02:58:01 PM EST

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Invective instead of reason=warning sign (none / 0)
I must have been mistaken about you earlier, Hilikaus. "Clearly you are ignorant of crazy." What a compelling, insightful argument! No low blows, full of logic and reason. You know what? You're right. I've changed my mind. I'm going to ignore this peer-reviewed research and take your account at face value from now on. Thanks for your help on this. </sarcasm>

by truthisall on 04/19/2009 04:01:04 PM EST

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Ok enough (none / 0)

A lot of this stuff is covered elsewhere and I'm tired of doing your homework for you. Please see this site.

http://www.debunking911.com /index.html

It is updated quite frequently from what i can tell. It's not my only source of some information but it is a good place for a large collection of the information. They update when truthers complain or take issue with certain things. You should check it out if you have not seen it yet.

by Hilikus9191 on 04/19/2009 08:05:19 PM EST

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9 scientists find Nano-Thermite Explosive in 9/11 samples | 46 comments (46 topical, 0 hidden)