You just parroted three well discredited conspiracy falsehoods. No matter how many times they are disproved, conspiracy theorists continue to repeat them. Feel free to show me otherwise. For example:

1) "Fell down without being struck" If I showed you evidence Building 7 was struck as well as set on fire by WTC debris, would it change your mind?

2)  "Freefall speed" How fast is that, how fast did the WTC fall, how fast do you think a collapsing building would fall and assuming there is some dichotomy - can you explain what you infer from it?

3) "A steel frame structure has never before or since collapsed due to fire" If I showed you evidence several steel frame structures have indeed "collapsed due to fire" would it change your mind?

You keep calling for people to look at the facts. If your facts are shown to be incorrect will you change your mind or will you find new and improved facts?

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 04/19/2009 02:18:00 PM EST

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"You keep calling for people to look at the facts. If your facts are shown to be incorrect will you change your mind or will you find new and improved facts?"

I think you have gotten to the very nub of the issue there Rob.

by bfaul on 04/19/2009 03:56:48 PM EST

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Robrob, I sincerely appreciate your willingness to use reason here. Please share links to any of the assertions you make in your post. It truly WOULD make a difference to me!


1) "Fell down without being struck" If I showed you evidence Building 7 was struck as well as set on fire by WTC debris, would it change your mind?

NIST *itself* blames the collapse on fire:

NIST WTC 7 Investigation Finds Building Fires Caused Collapse

"...Finally, the report notes that “while debris impact from the collapse of WTC 1 initiated fires in WTC 7, the resulting structural damage had little effect in causing the collapse of WTC 7....”

http://www.nist.gov/public_ affairs/releases/wtc082108. html

2)  "Freefall speed" How fast is that, how fast did the WTC fall, how fast do you think a collapsing building would fall and assuming there is some dichotomy - can you explain what you infer from it?

Here's a video series from Architects for 911 Truth: "NIST Finally Admits Freefall"
http://www.youtube.com/watc h?v=V0GHVEKrhng


3) "A steel frame structure has never before or since collapsed due to fire" If I showed you evidence several steel frame structures have indeed "collapsed due to fire" would it change your mind?

Please do show such evidence. I'd be eager to see it. I've been unable to unearth a single example other than WTC 7. NIST itself describes the WTC 7 collapse as an "extraordinary event." Here is some more info. from WTC7.net:

Fires have never been blamed for the collapse of a steel frame high rise before, and there are examples of skyscrapers being ravaged by severe fires. Recent examples of highrise fires include the 1991 One Meridian Plaza fire in Philadelphia, which raged for 18 hours and gutted 8 floors of the 38 floor building; and the 1988 First Interstate Bank Building fire in Los Angeles, which burned out of control for 3 1/2 hours and gutted 4 floors of the 64 floor tower. Both of these fires were far more severe than any fires seen in Building 7, but those buildings did not collapse. The Los Angeles fire was described as producing "no damage to the main structural members".


http://911research.wtc7.net /materials/wtc/b7.html

I appreciate the opportunity to engage in rational discussion here.  I'm not kidding. I don't relish the idea that there was some nefarious inside plot to do this. It's a sad thing to contemplate.

by truthisall on 04/19/2009 04:29:35 PM EST

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I don't like how replies get more and more "squeezed" in.

"No, you are a paid blogger assigned to counter anyone that posts something negative about the government or Obama." by Mcamelyne II on 05/17/2011

by Robrob on 04/19/2009 10:35:30 PM EST

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