"I dont want to have race between women and unborn babies for more rights either."

But that's exactly what the abortion debate is all about: a conflict of rights of which there is no doubt that a woman has and of which there is little doubt that a zygote lacks, despite cries from the so-called "pro-life" movement.

"I just wish you werent immoral enough to think that killing a third trimester fetus was like taking out the garbage."

You lost me there, but you never really had me, anyway.  If you want to be taken seriously, try to avoid putting words in your opponent's mouth that he can later shove down your throat as a outright lies.

"Youre either brainwashed by watching liberal talk all day or I am going to start believing Gods and Devils because you are evil."

The final indicator that you know you've lost the argument.

"You cant just go around killing people..."

And now we come full circle: when does the combination of a sperm and an egg become a person?  I've answered that question.  You've avoided it (I'm not sure why).  The debate ends there.

I won't be returning to this thread.  You're obvious hostility and unwillingness to confront the core issues of the problem makes further discussion unproductive, and you've become uninteresting.

by EveningStarNM on 06/03/2009 12:30:24 PM EST

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i never said a zygote has rights a six month old baby isnt a zygote though of course now who is putting words in someones mouth. A sperm and egg become a life to me before it comes out of the womb not at creation but at some point before birth and to you it seems that it happens when it comes out of a women like the outside air is magic and breaths life into the previously lifeless baby. thats why i say you act like its taking out the trash because its just simple i mean you keep using these terms like obviously, simple, or no doubt. Nothing about figuring out when does a sperm and egg get rights is obvious or simple. i am against late term abortions unless there are these medical reasons and for it where these are the reasons as well so eborujion i dont know whats youre beef. and i am FOR stem cell research i was saying that killing a 6 month baby ISNT like a packet of cells for SCR its something different

by atraindust on 06/03/2009 07:46:58 PM EST

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