The fact that there are close to 1,500 species (and counting) with observed homosexuality blows a huge whole in the "it's a choice" or "it's because they were molested" argument. In fact, homosexuality might be a biological adaption for some:

"Almost a quarter of black swan families are parented by homosexual couples. Male couples sometimes mate with a female just to have a baby. Once she lays the egg, they chase her away, hatch the egg, and raise a family on their own." Apparently this an advantage because two males do a better job of protecting their territory than one male and one female.

by Tom Hanc on 06/11/2009 04:43:05 PM EST

its a natural method of population control.

by birdboy1 on 06/11/2009 05:23:43 PM EST

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in almost every animal species there have been observations of homosexuality. IN FACT there are entire SPECIES that are ENTIRELY female (meaning they're all lesbians.... ummmm.... lesbians... niiiiiiice). only people who are willfully ignorant can still say homosexuality is "unnatural." it so obviously isn't as it happens naturally everywhere with a pretty steady 10% chance of happening.

 

i think so far only insect's haven't had any observations of homosexuality.

by kingbane on 06/11/2009 05:29:55 PM EST

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there are entire SPECIES that are ENTIRELY female
how would that work?

by birdboy1 on 06/11/2009 05:33:33 PM EST

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http://www.sciencemag.org/c gi/content/abstract/135/349 9/212

 

apparently there are 6 species of lizard in that genus that are entirely female.

 

oh and i made a mistake earlier i didn't mean nearly ALL animals, i meant nearly all mammalian animals. so far homosexuality has been observed less frequently in fish, and lizards, though they still occur. aquatic mammals too have also been observed to have some who are born homosexual.

by kingbane on 06/11/2009 05:45:26 PM EST

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virtually all female, possible.  Having a species that is completely female, however, is impossible.  Animals cannot breed outside their species and produce fertile offspring, so they would need some males inside the species in order to exist

by birdboy1 on 06/11/2009 05:51:49 PM EST

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New Mexico Whiptail, as well as several other all-female species of whiptail lizard, does reproduce, and all of its offspring are female. Moreover, it reproduces by parthenogenesis -- its eggs require no fertilization, and its offspring are exact and complete genetic duplicates of the mother.


by Chinese Democracy on 06/11/2009 06:05:00 PM EST

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I claim no special knowledge on gender variation of species...I think there is a big difference talking about mammals vs. reptiles tho.

by LadyFriend on 06/11/2009 06:07:23 PM EST

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the way the lizards reproduce causes mutation via genetic drift. so they dont require 2 sexes to mix chromosomes which generate more mutations.

by kingbane on 06/11/2009 06:17:35 PM EST

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reptiles lay eggs   and platypus (SP) but who knows what they are lol


by Chinese Democracy on 06/11/2009 06:17:52 PM EST

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Is 10% really common? I hadn't heard that before. I would be interested to read more about that if you can point me in the right direction.

by LadyFriend on 06/11/2009 06:08:42 PM EST

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wik i/Homosexuality_in_animals

ranges from like 8% in rams to as high as 19% in some mallards.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik i/Homosexuality

 

this one's for human homosexuality.

by kingbane on 06/11/2009 06:19:16 PM EST

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I usually talk about these stats without the numbers to back them up. Now I have them bookmarked.

by LadyFriend on 06/11/2009 05:34:56 PM EST

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