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OK, so the recipient is to blame, right, right...

Yeah if your too fucking stupid to comprehend what I was saying even after I try to clarify it.

I didn't come looking for a fight with you, and I couldn't give a rat's ass what you think, but you're the one that comes across as a condescending prick.

You obviously have real issues with trying to prove how smart you are.

Unfortunately you have real issues putting everything together. For example I didn't call you a conservative, I said your picking one thing out of the context of the totality of a comment is a well known conservative tactic. SEE THE DIFFEREINCE SPARKY? No you probably don't your too busy trying to prove how fucking clever, and what a heavy weight intellectual you are to bother to try and understand what I'm saying.

I do find it ironic that in another thread you wrote "A new language has to be invented (or an existing modified ;) and common definitions have to be found and put in use, so that all kinds of people with different backgrounds can express their respective experiences." which sounds remarkably like dialectic. I merely believe that it is near impossible to achieve in large numbers among so many diverse groups.

As to the Google comment, stick around and try to comprehend some of the things you read and you will understand why I made that joke. Google makes everyone think they are an expert. Not that I'm saying that's what you would ever do, I'm sure you are a world renowned philosopher, neurosurgeon, aerospace engineer, poet, graphic designer, and all around renaissance man.

So if you don't like what I say I would say perhaps you can take your own advise and just STFU.

Oh just so you'll know the "I hate being called a coward" comment was a joke, but humor doesn't appear to be your strong point either.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 06/22/2009 10:11:45 AM EST

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I didn't come looking for a fight with you, and I couldn't give a rat's ass what you think, but you're the one that comes across as a condescending prick.

You obviously have real issues with trying to prove how smart you are.

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No you probably don't your too busy trying to prove how fucking clever, and what a heavy weight intellectual you are to bother to try and understand what I'm saying.

A wise person once said:
"If I come across as condescending perhaps you are reading more into my comments than is there, which is your issue not mine. Sometimes we see ourselves in others." by Hubble on 06/21/2009 05:09:42 PM EST

[...] Not that I'm saying that's what you would ever do, I'm sure you are a world renowned philosopher, neurosurgeon, aerospace engineer, poet, graphic designer, and all around renaissance man.

Close, world-renowned infamous internet forum participant that is!

[...]but humor doesn't appear to be your strong point either.

True, at least you got THAT right... ;)

by eborujion on 06/22/2009 05:21:24 PM EST

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A wise man once said I am wiser than this man, for neither of us appears to know anything great and good; but he fancies he knows something, although he knows nothing; whereas I, as I do not know anything, so I do not fancy I do. In this trifling particular, then, I appear to be wiser than he, because I do not fancy I know what I do not know.

I don't fancy myself as to having great knowledge, I have opinions. This is still a silly thread because whether you believe in God and a higher meaning to life, or feel that " Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing"  You are operating on faith that you are right, because it can't be proven one way or the other.

Science still can't agree on the nature of the universe which is why we have so many theories to explain the physical universe. String theory being the latest in vogue theory to explain everything, which requires us to except alternate dimensions. We can't prove it yet, but it has a growing following.

world-renowned infamous internet forum participant that is!

Why thank you for noticing!

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative." John Stuart Mill

by Hubble on 06/22/2009 05:49:56 PM EST

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Sure, sure, sure... Socrates is 3000 years dead (if he existed), Shakespeare some 500, let them rest. Listen to Daegubill pointing out why a fallacy from authority is not really an argument.

[...]This is still a silly thread because whether you believe in God and a higher meaning to life, or feel that

This is still a silly statement. You seem to be oblivious or ignorant that this thread is about the fall of theism and its implications for the future of society and mankind. You only joined because someone noted that no non-atheists opined so far but only to not give your opinion on the suject by pointing out how silly the discussion is.

But still if it were a discussion about wether theism or atheism makes more sense, it would not be silly! Futile maybe, silly no. Topic recognition skills: FAIL!

Science still can't agree on the nature of the universe which is why we have so many theories to explain the physical universe. String theory being the latest in vogue theory to explain everything, which requires us to except alternate dimensions. We can't prove it yet, but it has a growing following.

If science can't explain everything, so what? That doesn't mean that there is justification to make shit up out of thin air. What if there are different approaches to unify all occuring phenomena in the materialistic universe? Did Einstein proof Newton wrong? (Hint: no). Even if science has not all the answers yet (or might never have them), that does not change how we perceive and understand the universe so far if we adhere to a coherent and consistent explanation. And, yes, it might change substantially over the course of a lifetime and still be consistent with all we had known before!

You are operating on faith that you are right, because it can't be proven one way or the other.

Everything you do, think or belief requires a leap of faith, so what? The best you can do (and thankfully for you, your brain does it automatically most of the time) is go with the probabilities. And the physical universe is really much more probable than magic! Sorry, if your old buddies, the philosophers of long past, were not vested with all the science and other tools to get a better estimation of what is actually going on. They might have gotten some things right but they were (sometimes admittedly) just sitting in a cave and looking at the shadows.

But btw: string theory has been around for years now and is not the latest in vogue, what you describe as alternate dimensions are actually dimensions as in height, width or time. What you probably are referring to is the multiverse theory, which features what one might call classic sci-fi alternate dimensions (realities, i.e. universes). Sorry, renaissance man, remember?

by eborujion on 06/23/2009 05:43:14 AM EST

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