doing away with factory farms and the way they treat animals. They are not a safe source of food, they destroy our water, land and air. And then to top it all off they do things to animals that is often worse than anything they would experience in the wild.

Where I am from there are lots of farms and we would never think of treating animals the way those places do. 

 I also have no problem with hunting. The argument against it is normally how mean or cruel it is. The PETA types seem to think animals die of old age in a comfortable bed with pain medication so it is easy on them.

"Natural" death for animals is often slow and very painful. Disease, starvation, dehydration, freezing, being eaten(often alive) or some combination of these are much more common for most animals than old age. I think most people would take a bullet over those options.

 

 I feel that because we can give a farm animal a decent life we are obligated to do so. 

by mattish on 06/28/2009 09:51:42 PM EST

that I do not agree with hunting animals for sport. I just don't see the point in it.

by mattish on 06/28/2009 10:33:40 PM EST

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I also find something inherently wrong with that. It seems so un evolved.

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by C D on 06/29/2009 01:48:04 AM EST

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Hunting for fun seems so cruel.
I'm wondering if you have the same opinion about fishing?
My gut reaction is that it's not as bad as hunting. I'm not sure that is justified. As I understand it, fish are capable of feeling pain. Most people fish and throw back the fish they catch. So...hooking a fish causes pain just for the sake of our amusement.

by LadyFriend on 06/29/2009 08:41:30 AM EST

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using and abusing animals for our pleasure is un evolved and I dont like it.

Circuses

Zoos

Hunting

Fur coats

Baby seals

I dont like any of it

Im not going to write Obama a nasty letter for smashing a bug.

Its just respect for the creatures we share the planet with.

Dont wipe out entire species because you feel like killing something.

Just common sense stuff.

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by C D on 06/29/2009 11:13:16 PM EST

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What's the problem with zoos?

by birdboy1 on 06/29/2009 11:21:22 PM EST

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even zoos that are trying to save a species and introducing them back into the wild fail miserably

Zoo animals hardly ever return to the wild because the reintroduction process never works, the animal transport process fails, and the animals are exposed to disease and chemicals because of the confinement. Animals come and go at zoos, but seldom return to the wild. Reintroduction programs rarely work because captive animals no longer possess the skills for survival.

Except for one sucessful program in Idaho re introducing wolves to the wild. And the orangutan programs here and there.  I havent seen much sucess.

Im much more for saving habitat and protecting animals natural enviroment than I am zoos.

If people want to see a caged animal pacing around thats up to them but me personally Im not interested.

The animals arent happy obviously  because every time an animal escapes from the zoo they go after the first human they can find.  

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by C D on 06/30/2009 02:29:23 PM EST

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 Normally fishing for fun would result in a fish getting a hole in the lip so it isn't as bad as an animal getting killed only for fun. Also fish do not appear on a level that most mammals are so people may not feel it is bad when they may not agree with animal hunting for sport.

 I know a lot of people that fish and I don't know any that do it only for sport so I can't say much about it.

by mattish on 06/30/2009 12:19:26 AM EST

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ensure that farm animals are treated humanly.  But CA is so broke I doubt they can pay anyone to enforce it right now.

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by C D on 06/29/2009 01:49:29 AM EST

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