Thoughts on animal welfare, animal rights, etc. | 58 comments (58 topical, 0 hidden)
yes, i respect consistency (2.00 / 2)

aliens, if they are sufficiently powerful, are free to abuse humans as they would.

we just shut up and take it like good little property, or else fight back and die trying.

we cannot point to goddam pieces of paper arguing for our "god-given" inalienable rights. them aliens know more than we do and there ain't no such rights their god gave them.

by neo on 06/27/2009 06:10:44 PM EST

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wow... (4.50 / 2)
lol you just made a "justification" For slavery with your idiocy. 

Compassion is not a bad thing, and while i am by no way a vegetarian, and i think peta for the most part are a bunch of nutbags.... i still have a problem with the slaughtering of a conscious cow.... 

Just cause they are dying for our food doesnt mean they should be cramped and pinned in 2x8 cells and chain fed.... they need a quality of life as well, that is just basic human compassion (you know, one of our few good qualities) to say you can do what you want with your "property" only shows that you lack some of the better qualities humans have.

There are ways to reach a agreement where it comes to animal rights.  ways to limit the animals suffering before its consumed etc.    and some practices that go to far and show a lack of compassion for living creatures.

oh and a "moral" basis (im agnostic so my morals are self taught)  if you have ants infesting your house threatning to destroy your foundation etc.... and you call someone to exterminate them,  that to me is fine... im not going to go "Safe traps" on them. 

The second someone invents a Chemical that chases ants out of your house guaranteed 100%  then it would be MORE moral to use this product over the killing....  when you have a Alternative method that doesnt harm a living creature but accomplishes the same goal, it is MORE moral and JUST to use said product over the killing.

Oh, and Killing a deer for food/clothing/overpopulatio n control = just.

Killing a deer cause you wanna shoot something and mount its head on your wall while leaving the rest of the carcass to rot = bad.

by Ectheleon on 06/27/2009 11:41:21 PM EST

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Slavery (none / 1)
The sad fact, however, is that such moral stances have been used to justify slavery for thousands of years. Same thing with women being bought and sold like cattle. These practices are only newly abandoned. I do think there should be ethicists working to really examine why people do (or do not) deserve certain rights.
Now, OBVIOUSLY I do not condone slavery or any type of ownership over people. But, in a way, chickens and even pets are our slaves now.
My point is only that just because modern people are repulsed by the idea of someone owning another person, that is not a valid jumping off point for moral debate. I do think there valid reasons for such ownership to be considered unethical, the problem is that the same moral stands most likely apply to some animals as well.

by LadyFriend on 06/28/2009 01:01:41 PM EST

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Thoughts on animal welfare, animal rights, etc. | 58 comments (58 topical, 0 hidden)