Occam's Razor demands simplicity.

"...you find it easy to believe a handfull of people with box cutters can fly a bunch of planes into some buildings!"

Yes.

The plan was elegant and simple.  It did require preparation, including gathering identifications and passports, and learning the basics of flying a large aircraft (but not how to take off or land).  They needed enough money for flight school, travel, and living expenses.  And box cutters.

It was simple, do-able, and they did it.

All I'm asking for is some credible evidence for a broader conspiracy reaching into the White House or (name your agency here).

With all of the backstabbing going on by members of the previous administration and the Republican Party in general, if there was any such evidence, I think it would have come out by now even if it didn't during the 9/11 Commission's investigation.  But the only people who are talking are people whose sole occupation is selling their hollow books (see Alan Miller's comment below), and no one is vouching for them.

Besides, why hasn't Richard Clarke talked about any of this?  If there was anyone credible who could have direct knowledge of such a conspiracy as well as a motive for exposing it, wouldn't it be him?  Or is he "in" on the conspiracy?

And yes, before you hang me for it, I admit that is another "lack of evidence" argument just like so many of the conspiracy theories.  But the positivists always bear the burden of proof, and lack of evidence is sufficient grounds for dismissal, not acceptance.

by AnEngineer on 06/09/2009 02:38:42 AM EST

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are you serious?  The whole reason there are still 9/11 conspiracy theorists is because the physical evidence at the scene points contrary to what the story says.  Obviously you are a person who dismisses theories without actually listening to the evidence behind them.  Loose change was not done by a nutjob...who says it wasn't done by someone in the government.  If someone came out within the government with "evidence" that 9/11 was a conspiracy set up by the government, you don't think that person would be looking over their shoulder for the rest of their life?  I mean, shit, if the conspiracy is true, and the goverment killed 3,000 Americans, you think one more would be a hard decision?  I just think it's odd that people who are discrediting the conspiracy theory based on a "lack of evidence" must ignore some things that are scientifically proveable, such as the metling point of steel vs. the peak burning temperatures of the reported fuels on site.  

Chris

by chrisandyasemin on 06/09/2009 12:04:03 PM EST

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I am a person who dismisses theories without actually listening to the evidence behind them.

by AnEngineer on 06/09/2009 04:33:17 PM EST

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Yarasi olan gocunur

"he who bears the wound takes offense.

Nice rating our comment AnEngineer, it says a lot;)

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by chrisandyasemin on 06/09/2009 05:24:31 PM EST

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this is what I was talking about earlier, some people also don't really know what is scientific fact and evidence vs speculation (which is sad). Like the boiling point of water at sea level or the melting point of steel. These are undisputable facts. Whereas things such as "I survived a car crash and that must be a miracle from God" are not fact and cannot be proven.

Common sense, isn't actually all that common.

This dude is my fav pseudo-scientist who thinks he understands facts and science:

wadda genius. I'll bet he can explain 911 and dispute Loose Change point by point with his flawless logic.

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by chrisandyasemin on 06/09/2009 05:33:59 PM EST

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