Cenk, where you go wrong on 9-11. | 65 comments (65 topical, 0 hidden)
Funny (5.00 / 3)

Is the concept of turning people off with condescending phrasing beyond your comprehension?

;)

And no, the evil conspiracy is not the simplest explanation.

by Tom Hanc on 06/08/2009 11:54:35 PM EST

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WTF? (1.33 / 3)
"Is the concept of turning people off with condescending phrasing beyond your comprehension?
;)

And no, the evil conspiracy is not the simplest explanation." 

What the fuck IS it with people? I suggested applying occams razor to the conspiracy theories. It's not necessary for Cheney or whomever to have been part of PLANNING the attack, just to take advantage of it. Since the DIA task force definitely EXISTED and if it found out about the 9-11 plot that information would have went straight to Cheney, who would immediately KINOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT, AND since ALL the material of that task force was subsequently destroyed utterly contrary to all procedure or anything remotely resembling common sense, occams razor says, IF there was a conspiracy, cheney finding out about the 9-11 plot and arranging to help it succeed to create a 'shock' doctrine situation is by far the likliest scenario. 

YOUR response to my mention of occams razor in this contect was ...  

"a little occams razor here please. (none / 1)

"Paraphrase: If it was an inside job, wouldn't it have made a million times more sense to just blow up a building and not complicate things insanely with planes and so many variables?

Think about it, instead of scaring people out of flying, anyone working in a building would've been/would be terrified. It's much simpler and makes a hell of a lot more sense if the goal is to scare people to grab power and oil, start wars, make money, etc."

WTF?

by spigzone on 06/09/2009 01:19:54 AM EST

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No (5.00 / 4)

The more plausible/simpler explanation is that they took advantage of 9/11 after it happened. They took a terrible event and used it to push various agendas (some of which they had planned from the start, like invading Iraq), much to the detriment of our country.

Cheney was made head of the counter terrorism task force in January of 2001, but he didn't even hold a meeting until Sept. 4th of that year. You can argue that meeting was about 9/11, but I think these factoids just add to image of incompetence.

Not that they were completely incompetent, don't get me wrong. But in some ways they clearly were.

by Tom Hanc on 06/09/2009 01:29:20 AM EST

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That's why it's called a book suppository (4.00 / 3)
"Random poo poo" is funny. It's almost a band name.

by OneHitKill on 06/09/2009 10:23:07 AM EST

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That doesn't prove anything (none / 0)

What does it matter how he got the job?   If his job was conveniently located someone could have taken advantage of that simple fact.

That being said, I do think it was Oswald's rifle that did the shooting, although I'm not totally convinced he was the trigger man.   It wouldn't have been that hard for someone to show up, use his rifle, and then slip out the building without being seen.  It's possible he knew something was going to happen and someone was going to try to kill Kennedy but didn't realize he was being set up as the fall guy.   He did say that he was only a "patsy" after they arrested him.

by bfaul on 06/09/2009 05:45:16 PM EST

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if ignorance is bliss, you're in nirvana (1.00 / 3)
"And the thousands of FBI and ATF agents who are still investigating as well as the indictment, trial and conviction of Mohammad al-Qahtani the "20th hijacker" - that just didn't happen?"

http://www.washingtonpost.c om/wp-dyn/content/article/2 009/01/13/AR2009011303372.h tml

"We tortured [Mohammed al-]Qahtani," said Susan J. Crawford, in her first interview since being named convening authority of military commissions by Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates in February 2007. "His treatment met the legal definition of torture. And that's why I did not refer the case" for prosecution. "

apparently not.

by spigzone on 06/09/2009 01:46:54 AM EST

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Wrong Guy (none / 0)
You responded to the wrong comment.

by Tom Hanc on 06/09/2009 01:50:31 AM EST

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sorry (none / 0)
right you are.

by spigzone on 06/09/2009 01:59:23 AM EST

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